Vista was not as bad as Millenium Edition.
And both of those were better than Bob.
what's different between an ug concert and some guys playing cello at your daughters graduation party?
The difference is measurable as decibels measured at some distance from the event. Most people are consistently against being woken by loud amplified music, no matter what the genre. The cellos playing at the lawn party down the street could not wake me up, unless they were amped and cranked, in which case I'd be disturbed. This kind of argument has fueled a generational divide for more than half a century, with the old people saying "turn it down," and the youngsters taking that as a sleight to their favorite band, musical genre, or lifestyle. My (now grown) children went through this, I did it when I was a younger, and my father did too. Before that, I guess there wasn't a lot of amplification, so I assume they had different issues.
To be is to program.