> Lots of devs disparage PHP, but they're all idiots
or they haven't looked closely at the newest changes to the language in the last two years.
Or they are talking more about the "PHP community", thousands of "scripters" who use PHP because it's easy to build things in PHP, in the same way that it's easy to build things with Legos.
I helped write the PHP certification test, which suggests I know a little something about PHP. My PHP code is used by many large universities. I could go on, but suffice to say I'm certainly not clueless about PHP. It is my opinion that PHP, as a general purpose language, was awful, horrible, until quite recently. I say "as a general purpose language" because that's how PHP is being used, but that's not what is was originally designed for. It was originally designed as a templating engine, as SSI++. The fact that it was never designed as a programming language was painfully obvious for many years - it had most of the individual features of a language, but no _design_ unifying those features.