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Comment Re:CGN will kill content providers (Score 1) 583

tell her to plan on upgrading both her computer and her first-mile provider service in the next couple years

1. You have a choice in first-mile providers? Must be nice. I live in the middle of Mtn. View, home to Google. The heart of Silicon Valley. I can get nothing more than 1.5Mbps from AT&T. If I want something faster (which I do) Comcast is the only game in town. So no, changing carriers doesn't solve any problems.
2. Neither broadband carrier here currently offers native v6.

Kinda sad, isn't it?

Staying IPv4-only is just plain going to cost more in the long-run than moving to IPv4/IPv6 dual-stack.

This I agree with. I think CGN is not a solution and is a stupid and lame attempt by carriers to avoid switching to v6. However, you were the one who seemed to think it was fine. Just put your ad servers in their address realm you said.

The fact is that v6 is not going smoothly. I'm involved from the CP side and it's a bitch. However, it's a necessary evil. Trying to postpone things with CGN will not only just drag out the inevitable but it will jack things up for a lot of people It is pure fail.

Comment Re:CGN will kill content providers (Score 1) 583

And I won't have much sympathy for the people don't like being nickle-and-dimed for searches but can't bother to run a modern IP stack on a modern network that provides IPv6 service.

You may not care about them, but the CPs do since that's where their money comes from. Or are you gonna tell you grandma to get a tunnel to HE because Comcast, one of the biggest residential providers out there, doesn't have v6 yet? Well, *you* probably would. Normal people wouldn't.

Comment Re:CGN will kill content providers (Score 1) 583

Google has production IPv6 service now...

Well, if by "production" you mean that their load balancers are proxying v6 connections, yeah. The content providers are deploying v6 and not CGN.

The ISPs are way slower. I've been signed up for a Comcast trial forever and not heard anything.

Oh well...I'm sure Google's price-per-search will be pretty low. They'll probably offer discount packages like cell phone carriers...

Comment Re:CGN will kill content providers (Score 1) 583

The websites I frequent are not reliant on ad-revenue, and those that are are easily replaced with ad-free alternatives that have existed for years, if not decades.

You visit Slashdot (obviously) and you mention Facebook and Google. There are three sites right there that *are* reliant on ad revenue, so you might want to rethink the above statement. And two of those three rely on IP for geolocation. It's not the most precise way to do it, but it works.

Comment Re:CGN will kill content providers (Score 1) 583

I don't get your "You think that the carriers are going to let them?" comment. Carriers love it when CDNs want to park a server inside their network. Ads are no different: less traffic through the external tube, faster load times for customers.

I think you woefully underestimate the kind of data the ad network would need from the carrier to make that work. And somehow I doubt the carrier is gonna do that for free. So yeah, this is still going to kill the content providers.

CGN is just epic fail. And that's just one reason.

Comment Re:CGN will kill content providers (Score 1) 583

They just move the ad servers into the carrier address realm. Nice try, though...

You actually think that everyone who operates an ad network is going to put proxy servers inside the carrier's network, before the CGN? You think that the carriers are going to let them? I guess you picked the wrong day to stop smoking crack, huh?

Comment CGN will kill content providers (Score 1) 583

Your IP address is a large part of being able to serve you relevant content, and more importantly relevant ads. If all of Comcast were, for example, to appear from one /24 then all of a sudden the ability of the content providers to target ads based on location would be done. And don't underestimate what the value in that is.

If you go ahead and say "Well, good, I don't like ads anyway" then realize this - content isn't free. It costs money for big ass datacenters to serve your page view. So take away the ability of the content providers to make money and they'll go away quickly. And then you won't have any content to view in the first place.

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