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Comment COPY WHOLE THREAD (Score 1) 245

September 27, 2013

Hersh On The Osama Raid

What does Seymour Hersh know that we do not know?

Seymour Hersh on Obama, NSA and the 'pathetic' American media

Don't even get him started on the New York Times which, he says, spends "so much more time carrying water for Obama than I ever thought they would" – or the death of Osama bin Laden. "Nothing's been done about that story, it's one big lie, not one word of it is true," he says of the dramatic US Navy Seals raid in 2011.

 

 

  Posted by b on September 27, 2013 at 11:30 AM | Permalink
 

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That's great, SH, but at this rate the world will have an intelligent and honest discussion about the false flag attacks of 9/11 in say about 2065.

Posted by: JSorrentine | Sep 27, 2013 11:48:12 AM | 1

Here's what I believe, have believed since 2003: we got Bin Laden at Tora Bora. But that was too quick and we needed him to hang around for a while to justify our continued GWOT (global war on terror). The U.S. would put out tapes, reputedly produced by Bin Laden whenever the Bush Admin needed a little "spice" to keep people focused. Obama comes along and decides to "kill" Bin Laden as he is no longer useful; at leaast he can get a boost in the ratings - one last gift the Bin Laden legacy could provide before putting that story to bed. Seriously, where was the body? Where are the photos of the body? We had no problem showing photos of a hanged Saddam, or a tortured Qaddafi, but we wanted to show Bin Laden some respect and dump him in the ocean?? Puhlease...

Posted by: skuppers | Sep 27, 2013 12:01:18 PM | 2

great article on hersh. thanks!

Posted by: james | Sep 27, 2013 12:43:12 PM | 3

Watch for Hersh's sudden and mysterious demise.Hope he prints it quick.

                                    And of course there was some kind of scam,as this whole WOT is a scam.

Posted by: dahoit | Sep 27, 2013 12:43:24 PM | 4

@2

Every level/incident of America's War on Terror has been found to have been based up whole-cloth lies and fabrications - every one - yet we are told to believe that The Event that got everything rolling is the God's honest truth and the mainstream parameters of our discourse are strictly modeled according to said tenet. Humanity can slowly keep peeling the onion for years and years - all the while ever newer layers of incidents/lies accrete and the criminals peacefully die off in their beds - or it can take a huge leap forward and start framing the entire War on Terror - including/beginning with 9/11 - as the largest act of aggressive war since 1939.

Posted by: JSorrentine | Sep 27, 2013 12:45:44 PM | 5

Think about it;From no air defense to tails 1 half? mile away from fuselage,to the twin towers falling exactly? on their footprint,to miraculous passports,to dancing Israelis,24 hr picts of alleged perps,building seven,airline futures,radio screwups,command center screw ups,wreckage shipped to China,the zero in charge,who was warned repeatedly,made a hero,lies about Iraq,Jessica Simpson,Abu Ghraib,Afghan,Iran,Syria,Pakistan,Somalia,Kenya,Sudan,Guantanamo,the list is endless.

                            Scam,scam,scam,scam........Arrgh......

Posted by: dahoit | Sep 27, 2013 12:52:03 PM | 6

The article is good.

  So are many of the comments, like the one of which this is a part:

"...Operation Mockingbird was a secret campaign by the United States Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) to influence media. Begun in the 1950s, it was initially organized by Cord Meyer and Allen W. Dulles, it was later led by Frank Wisner after Dulles became the head of the CIA. The organization recruited leading American journalists into a network to help present the CIA's views, and funded some student and cultural organizations, and magazines as fronts. As it developed, it also worked to influence foreign media and political campaigns, in addition to activities by other operating units of the CIA. (Wiki)

"Operation Mockingbird has grown immensely and now the NSA and CIA have complete control of US media. Firing the editors will have no effect as the entire media has been captured. For example, the New York Times would not report the Guardian story that the US shares Americans' raw data with Israel without legal restrictions. Nor would the Wall Street Journal or ABC, CBS and NBC. The entire media exists only for propaganda.

Journalism in the US began to die with Operation Mockingbird and now exists as pure propaganda of a secret, fascist police state that spies on all its politicians, judges, academics .. in fact, everybody. It spies on all journalists too and everyone has some skeletons in their closet.

Here is the WSWS critique of the New York Times which has traditionally represented the best in US media. The NY Times has mastered the art of converting news into propaganda to serve its masters:

"In a front-page article Tuesday, the New York Times reported that a United Nations report released the day before on the August 21 chemical weapons attack in the suburbs of Damascus “strongly implicated the Syrian government.”

"In fact, the report did no such thing. The story’s headline, “UN implicates Syria in using chemical weapons,” is a cynical distortion of reality tailored to meet the needs of the US government for war propaganda.

More...

"On Monday, the Times public editor Margaret Sullivan was compelled to respond to a barrage of emails from readers demanding to know why the newspaper had failed to write one line about the secret NSA documents released by Snowden showing that the agency was funneling raw data, including the telephone calls, emails and other online communications of American citizens, to Israeli intelligence...."

It is interesting too that the following comment appears to be from the political "right"

"...Thank you for your post. We live in the twilight zone.

I wish more of my fellow #TeaPartyers who believe the government is way to big would side with whistleblowers like Hersh, Snowden, Assange, & Liz Warren but instead, listen to Rupert Murdoch et al's "Divide and Conquer" song and dance..."

Posted by: bevin | Sep 27, 2013 1:07:40 PM | 7

@ 4. Watch for Hersh's sudden and mysterious demise. Hope he prints it quick.

You already know why that won't happen, even if you're not conscious of it.

Hersh is 100% certain to have left a time-bomb marked "Open only in ???? circumstances".

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Sep 27, 2013 1:47:54 PM | 8

Hersh is a just a convenient conduit for some faction within the CIA - it's very obvious when you view his work as a whole.

He tells us what his CIA contacts tell him. His CIA contacts tell him what they want us to know. that is all.

Certain types here will of course immediately put him on a pedestal, because that seems to be what they need to do - create and praise cartoon "heroes"

And Bin Laden wasn't in Tora Bora in 03.

F'n no one was in Tora Bora,

That's what annoyed the Brit Military so much about Tora Bora 03.

so much so that they started giving Press statements that almost came out and said that the whole Tora Bora story was a just a piece of stupid theatre, from start to finish

Posted by: hmm | Sep 27, 2013 2:01:08 PM | 9

You already know why that won't happen, even if you're not conscious of it.

it won't happen because Hersh has protection - he's a front man for a faction

Posted by: hmm | Sep 27, 2013 2:02:21 PM | 10

Comment ATTACK WAS KNOWN BEFORE OCCURRENCE BY AUTHORITIES (Score 2, Interesting) 245

Kenya’s National Intelligence Agency (NIS), widely accused by politicians of failing to pick up chatter about the attack, has insisted it did warn the police and officials inside the President’s office before the Westgate siege, but its warnings went unheeded, The Star reported.

According to the same report, a pregnant policewoman avoided Westgate after her brother, who works for Kenyan intelligence, warned her of a terror attack. “She has told police that her brother who is a NIS officer warned her not to visit Westgate that Saturday because she would not be able to run,” a senior officer was quoted as saying.

SOURCE:

Gladio, Gladio, Gladio.

Comment Re:choosing sides (Score 0) 245

Comment Re:Fire them. (Score 1) 252

"...The last vestige of the old Republic has been swept away..."

These criminals have been voting away Constitutional provision through simple majority and 2/3, statute-by-statute, since the end of the Civil War. This is just your 150-year end-game. It's too late, to stop it now,

Just wait til you see what they do with this manufactured "Budget Crisis". Emergency powers people. With a little coterie of Feinstein/Leiberman style Senators as arse-cover, for "representation".

Comment Re:choosing sides (Score -1, Troll) 245

Terrorism? Give me a break. This is the same kind of 'Terrorism" that is featured in the movie "Brazil", and that Orwell exposed with "Emmanuel Goldstein", in "1984". It's the kind of "terrorism" funded by your American tax-dollar.

Look. This is a fake "terror" incident, run by the black-ops folks in the US and Israel, just like 7/7 and Mumbai. Lets look at the ringleaders. Why are they ALWAYS English-speaking, with a long history of being directed by the CIA or a south-Asian proxy, before going "Rogue"? David Headly? Samantha Lewthwaite? We are not really that stupid, are we?

And just WHY was "award-winning, crisis photographer" Tyler Hicks in the Westgate mall, the EXACT moment that shit went down? That guy gets conveniently located with alarming frequency. How come the people "trying to prevent" these occurrences don't just up their chances, and follow him around?

There are fingerprints all over this stuff. But we will never be able to see them if we wear the blinders and bullshit from CNN/NPR/Fox channels for dissemination of official propaganda.

The Matrix

Journal Journal: TYLER FUCKING HICKS 2

"Tyler Hicks, who always somehow seems to be at the hottest of hot spots and war zones when things explode, did it again today, improbably being inside the mall in Nairobi when the bomb went off."

Like Mumbai, this is NOT what all appearance and "reporting " are telling you.

It is a "Gladio" style operation.

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