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Comment Re:It's the stigma (Score 1) 366

C[whatever]O, VP of [whatever]. But these types of positions are almost always reserved for those with a certain pedigree, certainly not for people working their way up from the factory floor. The idea that you just might go from the mail room to the board room is a fantasy designed to motivate unprivileged people into staying on the treadmill.

Go ahead and list the astronomically rare outliers that prove me wrong. For every outlier, I'd be able to point to 100 executives who had the right last name, or went to the right prep school, Ivy League undergrad, prestigious business school, etc.

Comment Re:I consider that a pretty good analogy... (Score 4, Insightful) 248

Get ready to have no free (gratis) software, as it would be ridiculous to donate one's time to write code for free if you could be held liable for mistakes. Get ready for your paid software to cost 10X more to cover the extra development "hardening" time it would all require to be less penetrable, and to cover the insurance policies software companies would have to take out to shield themselves.

You know, we blame civil engineers when their buildings collapse, maybe it's time to start blaming computer "engineers" when their systems do.

But we don't blame civil engineers when their buildings collapse after they get blown up by dynamite. It's not like these computer systems are just falling over from nature. They're under malicious attack.

Comment Re:Real world equivalents (Score 1) 243

If you do it long enough, you are loitering.

If you are coordinating a distributed attack on a system and preventing others access, thus damaging a companies ability to do business...then yes, that indeed should be illegal.

But, taking the example of 100 people getting in line at Chick-fil-a, how can you (as the store's management) tell the difference between a hungry customer and one who is participating in this coordinated attack, without waiting for them to get to the register and not order? Do you make it illegal to not order food? How would you even write a law to make such practice illegal?

Flip this around and put yourself in the other shoes. Pretend this was your website and was the way that you made money. I'd imagine you would want it to be illegal for someone to take away your ability to run your business.

I would go to great lengths to not provoke someone into or motivate someone to organizing such an attack. People don't just wake up in the morning and say, "Gee, I think I'm going to try to take down Joe's Auto Parts web site today!!" for no reason.

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