At some point you would think it would be irreverent for people to keep brining up the constitution. Our government hasn't followed it since the ink was dry.. Remember old Honest Abe Lincoln wiped his ass with it. I don't know why you think we start following it now.

I kinda wish Obama would burn it so people stop referring to it like it has any kind of meaning. You have rights because your human, not because some dead guys signed a piece of paper.

Global warming is fraud.. however if they pay me the difference I'll shut down the work stations. No? then I could care less.

(Note for socialists here: responsibility makes people do good things, if I'm paying the bill I'll shut them down, if some anonymous ideological group like a corporation or government pays then I will waste.)

What's a program? Is it just a binary, or is it everything including documentation. Would you like to try another bar?

Vista contains 50 Million lines of code.
Debian 4.0 contains 282 Million lines of code.

Vista cost Microsoft somewhere around $10 Million to develop.
Debian 4.0 would have cost an estimated $2.437 Billion if developed by traditional software means.

The simple fact is, the more you know, the more you can know. ??? No, science and philosophy can help someone arrive at a logical conclusion but belief in what people would call a fact or factoid (that is not a scientific fact or law) with out proof and then believing you can therefore "know more", is in my opinion foolish.

Your friend has an illogical belief or "knows" that the size of the operating system is what matters. I used the example before that many people think they "know" if you go swimming after eating you will get cramps, however there are worse beliefs than this.. such as the state or religion. A great number of people "know" there are countries. A great number of people "know" there is a god of some form. The very word faith itself should be read as "made up fiction nonsense". Belief without proof in something is allowing yourself to be controlled and is a dangerous thing to allow peoples minds to be polluted by such nonsense mis-think so they can be controlled to the aims of the controller that are usually quite evil as evident by something we know of as a war, or as I like to call it senseless mass murder.

"So I left him, saying to myself, as I went away: Well, although I do not suppose that either of us knows anything really beautiful and good, I am better off than he is - for he knows nothing, and thinks that he knows. I neither know nor think that I know. In this latter particular, then, I seem to have slightly the advantage of him." -- Apology By Plato

Sorry about the OT.

I can run notepad in wine so fucking what.

My point is Debian ships with more software than Microsoft even makes let alone ship in Vista.

You must have failed economics. $150 that is not spent on a product means you now have $150 to spend on something else. Going by what you say..if someone paid you to not use vista when you otherwise would have then your gain would be $300 not $150.. the $150 not spent and the $150 you were paid.

There are many reasons. $150 reasons actually, but your logic is flawed. In fact if you don't desire some new feature there is no reason to not use what you are comfortable using. Applying changes when changes are not needed is introducing risk. ..Uhh.. Do you work for Microsoft? Just wondering..

Vista comes with a nice clock, a calculator, and notepad.

Debian 5.0 (Lenny) has over 25113 packages with on 5 DVD, and even more not more than a few ticks of a keyboard away.

This is true, optimizations in GCC have lead to the newer OS's becoming faster on new hardware when doing the same things.

So the above note about the latest version *always* being slower.. that actually only applies to Windows.

Sure they went to high school.. then they went to the army and lost all ability to think for themselves.

We iz jest following ORDERS! Blinking komputer is terrorist!

In other words then, no you don't have cancer..

I class you as a fucking lier.

Beyond that.. even if you did. (and I think your a poser but lets play a long)

If you really did choose to work a job and sit in a smoky office for 40 years and got lung cancer from it, then really you have nobody to blame but yourself for that. Hope the job was worth it.

Oh really? Care to prove that someone who never smoked ever obtained lung cancer from second hand smoke? They have a hard enough time proving first hand smoking causes cancer because a decently large portion of people who smoke never get it. (As evident by those 80 year old ladies who still are smoking in nursing homes.)

I use MPUI on Windows.

It's just like Media Player Classic but with an Mplayer backend.

Best post ever, you are exactly right. Who wants to be a millionaire is not science.

I would say the people out there that actually really understand science is much worse than that.. all the people who believe in the crazy garbage we were all told growing up like "Don't go swimming after eating" Why did people believe that? Because they believed that the blood would pool in your stomach in order to help you digest food in the god damed dark ages.

I don't think we need more teachers.. most of the time they themselves are full of bias and even the books are wrong.. We need more people asking questions about what we all know is true like Penn and Teller.