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Comment Re:The big question that must be answered (Score 2) 784

At some point you would think it would be irreverent for people to keep brining up the constitution. Our government hasn't followed it since the ink was dry.. Remember old Honest Abe Lincoln wiped his ass with it. I don't know why you think we start following it now.

I kinda wish Obama would burn it so people stop referring to it like it has any kind of meaning. You have rights because your human, not because some dead guys signed a piece of paper.

Comment I'm an Admin (Score 1, Flamebait) 576

Global warming is fraud.. however if they pay me the difference I'll shut down the work stations. No? then I could care less.

(Note for socialists here: responsibility makes people do good things, if I'm paying the bill I'll shut them down, if some anonymous ideological group like a corporation or government pays then I will waste.)

Comment Re:I have a feeling.... (Score 1) 1010

What's a program? Is it just a binary, or is it everything including documentation. Would you like to try another bar?

Vista contains 50 Million lines of code.
Debian 4.0 contains 282 Million lines of code.

Vista cost Microsoft somewhere around $10 Million to develop.
Debian 4.0 would have cost an estimated $2.437 Billion if developed by traditional software means.

Comment Re:gnome changes too often (Score 1) 455

by smoker2 (750216) Alter Relationship on Saturday March 14, @04:51AM (#27191563) Homepage Journal
So if you want to work out how much turf you need to cover a circular patch of lawn, NOT knowing a reasonable approximation of Pi is OK ? You have to go find out what Pi is, how to apply it to the problem etc. Facts are only facts because they have been scientifically proven. Millionaire is trivia not calculation. Any fact you already have shortens the time needed to perform any calculation. You know that % means fractions of a hundred. If you didn't and were asked to put 40% of something somewhere, then how much should be left over ? Facts are useful, period. Witness the idiot selling laptops on TV stating that "it has a 500 gigabit hard drive" - ignorant, and proud to be that way.

The simple fact is, the more you know, the more you can know. If you see the word paediatrics on a sign in a hospital, you have a good idea that it means something to do with children, that is if you already know about paedophiles, or paediatricians. You can extrapolate from what you know to discover what you don't (science). If you choose not to know basic things, you are choosing complete ignorance, so expect to be treated that way.

Factoid is a stupid term, used by stupid people.

I have been trying to get a good friend of mine to try out linux. He doesn't know much about computers, but does a lot of selling on ebay etc. His main and first question was "how big is it ?" WTF ? What does that mean ? How big is the install disk, or how much disk space does it take up or what ? It turns out that Vista takes a few gig of disk space, so when I said that you can get a reasonably useful linux install in less than 50 MB he was astounded. But where the hell did his original question come from ? What kind of metric is that ? It has nothing to do with the merits of an operating system AFAIK.
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That which you give to another will become your own sustenance-if you light a lamp for another-your own way will be lit

The simple fact is, the more you know, the more you can know. ??? No, science and philosophy can help someone arrive at a logical conclusion but belief in what people would call a fact or factoid (that is not a scientific fact or law) with out proof and then believing you can therefore "know more", is in my opinion foolish.

Your friend has an illogical belief or "knows" that the size of the operating system is what matters. I used the example before that many people think they "know" if you go swimming after eating you will get cramps, however there are worse beliefs than this.. such as the state or religion. A great number of people "know" there are countries. A great number of people "know" there is a god of some form. The very word faith itself should be read as "made up fiction nonsense". Belief without proof in something is allowing yourself to be controlled and is a dangerous thing to allow peoples minds to be polluted by such nonsense mis-think so they can be controlled to the aims of the controller that are usually quite evil as evident by something we know of as a war, or as I like to call it senseless mass murder.

"So I left him, saying to myself, as I went away: Well, although I do not suppose that either of us knows anything really beautiful and good, I am better off than he is - for he knows nothing, and thinks that he knows. I neither know nor think that I know. In this latter particular, then, I seem to have slightly the advantage of him." -- Apology By Plato

Sorry about the OT.

Comment Re:I have a feeling.... (Score 1) 1010

However, when deciding to buy a new machine, why use an 8-9 year old operating system? There is no reason for a home user to not use Vista on a new machine.

There are many reasons. $150 reasons actually, but your logic is flawed. In fact if you don't desire some new feature there is no reason to not use what you are comfortable using. Applying changes when changes are not needed is introducing risk. ..Uhh.. Do you work for Microsoft? Just wondering..

Comment Re:sure it is (Score -1) 1079

And I'm sure, before Linux, they were running other evil black-screened operating systems with blinking cursors.

You've gotta wonder if these cops ever made it to high school, let alone college.

Sure they went to high school.. then they went to the army and lost all ability to think for themselves.

We iz jest following ORDERS! Blinking komputer is terrorist!

Comment Re:Absolute worst, as far as I am concerned. (Score 1) 1127

Oh really? Care to prove that someone who never smoked ever obtained lung cancer from second hand smoke? They have a hard enough time proving first hand smoking causes cancer because a decently large portion of people who smoke never get it. (As evident by those 80 year old ladies who still are smoking in nursing homes.)

Comment Re:Aside from that... that isn't scientific litera (Score 1) 1038

Just a note: Knowing how much of the planet is covered in water is *not* scientific literacy. That is trivia knowledge. If I need to know how much of the planet is covered in water (I'd guess 80%), I look it up, and decide if the definition matches my needs.

Scientific literacy would be understanding (1) how to research science you need (2) how to conduct a proper experiment (3) how to evaluate claims for obvious falsehood (4) how to check out non-obvious claims for falsehood, which is related to #1, (5) how to identify whether you are yourself competent in an area of science, or not, and (6) how to find someone who *is* competent, if necessary.

I hate it when people mistake factoids for science.

I hate it when people mistake popular blurbs for reason.

Best post ever, you are exactly right. Who wants to be a millionaire is not science.

I would say the people out there that actually really understand science is much worse than that.. all the people who believe in the crazy garbage we were all told growing up like "Don't go swimming after eating" Why did people believe that? Because they believed that the blood would pool in your stomach in order to help you digest food in the god damed dark ages.

I don't think we need more teachers.. most of the time they themselves are full of bias and even the books are wrong.. We need more people asking questions about what we all know is true like Penn and Teller.

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