Bingo.

Now, there are thousands of people who do this job throughout the state, and honestly, I'd rather them be employed than out looking for work. It's important for there to be entry-level positions that help people move up. This is a major factor why it continues to be a thing here in NJ. Every public vote has been to keep it this way.

It's good for the economy - keeps folks employed, and honestly, it's really nice as a driver. Great not having to stand out there on cold wintry days or in the pouring rain. The attendants are properly prepared for that -- most drivers are not (for example, I hate driving with a coat on, so it's usually on the seat next to me in winter.)

Full service is also better for security - the station is always staffed, and access to the credit card readers is controlled... less chance of a skimming attack, etc.

There's no discernible impact on price, either. NJ still has the lowest average gasoline price in its area. I don't think the gas station owners would suddenly drop prices if self-service became a thing - they'd simply hold the line, and charge more for those who do require full service.

I know it seems an odd quirk, but it's got a societal and economic benefit.

Seriously?

There's really two FC HBA providers out there -- Broadcom (QLogic) and Marvell (Emulex).

The best they can come up with from this entire mess is that Marvell may have a harder time writing drivers for ESXi?

Seems like a pretty weak argument to me -- all Broadcom has to do is say "We'll keep the Device Driver Development Kit available for Marvell till 21 years after the last descendant of King George III dies" (i.e. play the Disney card) and ... that squashes that.

This is all the European Commission could come up with?

Actually, Tesla at least has switched over to use a small lithium battery to run their low voltage systems. It’s been working very very well for them. Solved a myriad of issues.

JB Straubel -- "who previously worked at Tesla" ... that might be understatement of the year.

JB Straubel was a co-founder of Tesla, employee #5 and the brainchild behind most of their battery systems and strategy.

So yeah, the guy might know a thing or two about batteries. Supply chains. Materials availability. And most of all, how to build a business around it.

Redwood Materials - IMO - is doing exactly what'll make EVs long-term sustainable.

These are the guys to watch.

Wish I had mod points right now, because I totally agree with ALL of this.

No problem putting in wind -- we're doing the same here off the Jersey shore. Back that with a Megapack battery plant.
And let's get some next-gen nuclear built too. Cleanest form of energy we've got by a wide margin.

Itâ(TM)s simple. They get to retire the 3G equipment, software, maintenance contracts and of course, refarm spectrum. That stuff is *incredibly* expensive. Huge cost savings to be had, and of course refarming the spectrum to 4G and 5G adds sorely needed capacity on those networks.

Itâ(TM)s a net positive for everyone, unless your name is Nokia or Qualcomm.

A lot of that is just plain luck. Once Really Bad Guys perpetuate
  horrific attacks on trains, that convenience and speed you mention will become yet another security nightmare.

I don’t disagree that the US needs a lot more passenger rail, but even if it happened, we’d mess up all that convenience.

Oh, spent plenty of time abroad. Don’t speak French but the universal “that train car is empty so there must be something bad” translates perfectly for this native New Yorker. The guy who took a dump in the middle of the Parisian subway car was a great reminder of why I love driving my own car at home.

Just wanted to say, my fellow 30k-UID'er, that you absolutely nailed it. Exactly right. This is why I don't think parks or libraries are the right place for these L2 chargers. How much time do you spend in the library? An hour or two at most? What we need are longer-term parking spots. Like you said, apartment lots or business lots or whatever. A place where the vehicle can charge while at rest during the workday or overnight.

Save the fast charging for road trips - let overnight charging be the way to fly. Helps fill in the gaps in our power network, too. Adding that load during non-peak hours actually helps flatten the demand curve on the power grid, too.

That's precisely why I said:

"The emphasis should be on home charging *where possible*, DC fast charging for trips, and public access L2 charging at overnight locations where folks cannot charge at home.

I'd much rather see them invest in 120V outlets (or better yet - 208/240V outlets) on light poles at street parking in urban areas. That would help for a good portion of the urban use cases."

It's a nice-to-have chargers in the community, but typically folks go to places like a park or library within a few miles of their home. I don't think this moves the needle in any meaningful way (aside from a press release, of course.). The emphasis should be on home charging *where possible*, DC fast charging for trips, and public access L2 charging at overnight locations where folks cannot charge at home.

I'd much rather see them invest in 120V outlets (or better yet - 208/240V outlets) on light poles at street parking in urban areas. That would help for a good portion of the urban use cases.

Between that, and meaningfully equipping large commercial parking lots, it could really help.

All for more charging locations, certainly... but ground shaking this isn't. Especially when some nozzle blocks the charger. Had exactly that yesterday at our local supermarket. Again, not a terribly useful charging location, but still was a jerk move to block it with a diesel whatever.

Real charging networks (to date, Tesla's Superchargers, and EVgo) let you just plug in and it charges to your card on file. One time registration of the VIN and your charge card on their website, and from then on - just plug in and go. It's really a thing of beauty.

Hey, I'm all for whatever expands the charging networks .... but L2 chargers are slow. Hours to get any meaningful range. And worse yet, that means hours hanging around a car dealership ... quite possibly the least useful place on Earth for me.

Adding DCFC - even pay-for DCFC - would be so much better. 100+ miles of range in less than 10 minutes with today's Superchargers -- would be even better with a 350kW+ setup.

DCFCs are what matter... Level 2's are great for home, and maybe the movie theater. This is like GM bringing a knife to a gun fight.

In the NYC region, 1010WINS is now simulcasting on 92.3FM.

AM is officially dead to me.

Even on the worst of days (like 9/11, which I guess some of you slashdotters weren’t alive for geez!) - all I need is 1010WINS.

Best station in the nation.

What in the bloody hell are you talking about?

NASA's prime contractors - i.e. Grumman, Boeing, ULA, Rocketdyne, etc - have ALWAYS been privatized. NASA hasn't built any engines. Ever.

The difference is that now you have a contractor that's not soaking them as a make-work Congressional pork project, but rather trying to actually build something for their own use as well as NASA's.

But hey, don't let reality get in the way of your spin.