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Comment Re:Of course they are... (Score 2) 417

his is why the US catches Russian sleeper agents occasionally... or busts Chinese spies. This happens all the time. And the general convention on the matter is that if we don't punish their spying we won't punish their spying.

Being in company of China and Russia with your track record isn't something I'd consider to be proud about.

Comment Re:mother of all languages (Score 2) 323

In Finnish mother is "Ãiti". There also exists another word for mother "emo", but it's not used anymore in reference to human mother (except few local dialects), only when referring to mothers of other animal species. Though I think Estonian ("ema") and some other Finno-Ugric languages still have it in its original meaning.

BTW. Wouldn't it be time for slashdot to support accented letters already? Ã is a with two dots over it, pronounced like letter a in english word ash.

Comment Re:Didn't Trillian do this? (Score 1) 242

I can confirm that chatting with Google Talk accounts works using 3rd party XMPP servers. XMPP is actually the only IM protocol (if screen+irssi on remote server isn't counted) that I use with my phone (N9 also) and it works through the phone's integrated messaging client (telepathy). Video and voice calls using XMPP are bit flaky, but for simple messaging it's great.

Comment Re:Eh? (Score 1) 90

I don't know For what it's worth, here's the package description for xserver-xorg-fbdev:

Description: X.Org X server -- fbdev display driver This package provides the driver for TI's OMAP 3 SoCs with a POWERVR SGX graphics core.

...and drivers being loaded:

~ $ zcat /var/log/Xorg.0.log.0.gz | grep driver
[ 11.461] (==) Matched fbdev as autoconfigured driver 0
[ 11.461] (==) Assigned the driver to the xf86ConfigLayout
[ 11.462] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/fbdev_drv.so
[ 11.474] (II) FBDEV: driver for framebuffer: fbdev
[ 11.505] (II) FBDEV(0): [DRI2] DRI driver: pvr2d

Comment Re:Eh? (Score 1) 90

Well, I don't know what N9 you guys are talking about, but my Nokia N9 (RM696) definitely uses X11 as default.

~ $ Xorg -version

X.Org X Server 1.9.5
Release Date: 2011-03-17
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.32-5-amd64 arm
Current Operating System: Linux rm696 2.6.32.54-dfl61-20121301 #1 PREEMPT Mon Apr 2 14:14:32 EEST 2012 armv7l

and

~ $ pstree
init-+-Xorg
|-Xsession---sleep
<snip>

Comment Re:Eh? (Score 1) 90

From my Nokia N9:

~ $ ps -A | grep Xorg
  553 root     244:41 /usr/bin/Xorg -logfile /tmp/Xorg.0.log -core -background none -logverbose 1 -verbose -1 -nocursor -noreset -novtswitch -s 0 -sigstop
17005 user       0:00 grep Xorg

~ $ dpkg -l | grep xserver-xorg
ii  xserver-xorg-core                                              2:1.9.5-meego2121+0m8                                          Xorg X server - core server
ii  xserver-xorg-input-evdev                                       1:2.6.0-1-meego1042+0m6                                        X.Org X server -- evdev input driver
ii  xserver-xorg-input-mtev                                        0.1.14+0m6                                                     Multitouch XI2 input driver
ii  xserver-xorg-video-fbdev                                       1:0.4.0-264+0m8                                                X.Org X server -- fbdev display driver

Comment Re:I approve. (Score 1) 212

That's not the impression I get from all that's been happening up there in NK lately. They aren't behaving by anyone's definition of "rational".

Kim Jong-un trying to unite people behind him by building up imaginary foreign threat? Not exactly a novel idea or completely without rationale. He's a new leader, people are unsure of his power and some might want to take his place or get rid of him.

For all practical purpose, they are 100% unpredictable. You have no way of telling what they're going to do next.

Probably next he will just make more threaths. Threats don't kill, but they can coinvince some potential competitors in the political elite of NK that Kim Jong-un is not weak. Whatever the case the NK's dictator loves his power and using nukes would be the fastest way to throw it all away. He won't do that. It might sound stupid to people who like to dehumanize their opponents, but he's not crazy (as in irrational). It's ofcourse debatable if lust for power that goes beyond the needs of the people is sane, but then many if not all of our leaders are crazy.

Comment Re:I approve. (Score 3, Interesting) 212

That's not the impression I get from all that's been happening up there in NK lately. They aren't behaving by anyone's definition of "rational".

Kim Jong-un trying to unite people behind him by building up imaginary foreign threat? Not exactly a novel idea or completely without rationale. He's a new leader, people are unsure of his power and some might want to take his place or get rid of him.

For all practical purpose, they are 100% unpredictable. You have no way of telling what they're going to do next.

Probably next he will just make more threaths. Threats don't kill, but they can coinvince some potential competitors in the political elite of NK that Kim Jong-un is not weak. Whatever the case the NK's dictator loves his power and using nukes would be the fastest way to throw it all away. He won't do that. As stupid as it sounds he's not crazy. It's debatable if lust for power that goes beyond the needs of your people is sane, but then many if not all(?) of our leaders would be crazy.

Comment Re:It really is a pity it was killed (Score 1) 176

I agree with most of above except your claim about lack of app development. While it's true for commercial apps, - not much incentive to develop there and never was due to Elop's decision to kill the platform before N9 was even released - influx of ported and new open source apps seems quite strong.

I'm just playing with a new Stellarium port http://thelarge.org/stellarium-n9/ (which is awesome) and few days ago I installed a new version of Rawcam http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=85512 . Many apps that I use frequently - Meecast, Meegopas, Mapsi and CuteTube to name some - have been updated regularly.

The thing I really like about N9 is that I can use same CLI tools that I use on my desktop. If some CLI tool is missing it's not hard to fire up scratchbox, wget the sources and compile it for Harmattan. Not to mention ability to ssh into it and use like any other linux device on my network.

Real multitasking with background sockets is nice too. I can fire up terminal on N9, ssh to my server, attach to screen session of irssi and have it there for basically forever and switch to the terminal app whenever I feel like reading discussions. WP8 would just close the connection when I switch ssh client to the background. I don't know how Android handles multitasking, probably better.

Comment Re:The curious thing (Score 2) 200

Nokia's Linux businesses? They have to be worth something to somebody. And anything is better than nothing, unless they get more for destroying them than selling them.

Nokia's Linux effort was worth billions to Microsoft. Billions to have it dead.

MS sees Linux as threat and it's their tune that Nokia dances to. Elop has gone out of his way* to ensure that there's no return to Linux at Nokia.

* Firing MeeGo and Meltemi teams and killing both projects, shutting down Salo factory where N9 was being made and laying off QT devs. Everything Linux related has been axed.

Comment Re:Good luck (Score 3, Interesting) 200

I should have included the bit before that. I know about that, but how does that affect its openness?

Aegis prevents messing with some of the system files, but it's not too hard to circumverent/disable Aegis alltogether. Install open kernel or use Inception.

Though I haven't bothered with either. Aegis hasn't (yet) come into my way when porting software to the phone or installing stuff from community repository with apt-get. Much of stuff in community repos are just stock debian armel packages, with slight modifications in control files.

If you know how to compile programs in Linux, then that's the only thing you need to know to port stuff to Harmattan. Install Scratchbox to your computer, log in to it, download sources, apt-get necessary -dev packages, ./configure && make and scp resulting binaries to your phone. For extra points you can ofcourse roll it into debian package and kindly ask at #harmattan IRC channel for your package to be added to the community repository so that everyone can install it on their phones with apt-get.

N9 is just awesome. Swipe UI wipes the floor with Android and IOS + it really feels like a true Linux computer. Elop has made sure it's hard to get, but IMO it's easily worth all the money you throw for it.

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