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Comment Re: Wrong Comparison (Score 2) 177

You seemed to attack UBI as flawed because human nature dictates that some segment of people will abuse it. Yet there are already public assistance programs in place now. And the very same logic could be used (and in fact is often used) to justify dismantling them or at the very least curtailing them.

My point is that we sustain public assistance programs today, despite them being susceptible to abuse. We do that because the cost of shutting them down is that people using them in good faith would needlessly suffer.

So to say that we shouldn't give UBI serious consideration because it might suffer the same downsides as the current assistance programs doesn't resonate with me.

Comment Re: Wrong Comparison (Score 3, Insightful) 177

Don't let perfection be the enemy of "good enough".

And It's not like the current status quo doesn't have lots of people who game the system unfairly. But we accept the fact that it's part of human nature, and to shut down the system entirely is not worth exacerbating poverty just because we are miffed that bad people do what bad people will do.

Comment Re: Land? (Score 5, Insightful) 240

Hurricanes could present a bit of a problem along parts of the East coast and Gulf. As for the article, as usual it only examines the direct costs, and completely ignores all the jobs and businesses which are tied to fossil fuels most of which don't simply transfer to renewables.

Ah. The tried and true Buggy Whip Argument(tm).

Comment Re:High relevance of the virus family (Score 1) 264

Obviously the lockdowns don't work, or they take longer than 10 months to be effective.

Ok troll, I'll take the bait. Your assertion that a lockdown takes longer than 10 months to work implies that you have direct evidence of such. Ok, show your cards. Show evidence of the outcome following a 10 month lockdown, because to my knowledge, no place anywhere has sustained such a lengthy lockdown.

Comment Re:Opening grade schools has also caused deaths? (Score 1) 264

So if this is happening with colleges, is it also happening with grade schools? I see reports that COVID-19 hasn't spread in -some- grade schools that have reopened, though it has in others that were closed again, but if there is asymptomatic spread how would they know? I would doubt they are doing PCR tests on kids with no symptoms to find out, but maybe they are. We do know COVID-19 occurs in children, so it seems entirely possible they are spreading it among themselves and hence to their families. Maybe asymptomatic spread is rarer (no symptoms means no sneezing, droplets, etc.) but seems like it could still be happening on a large enough scale to have an effect.

Well I'll just point out the obvious that grade school kids are probably not hitting up dive bars and frat parties when they are not in class. So I'm guessing that college kids carry with them a different risk profile. That, and as others have mentioned, college kids are much more geographically mobile.

Comment Re:Why do they need to die? (Score 1) 178

This argument seems to be movie theaters need to go away because the author personally doesn't see their value anymore.

Why not just let the free market decide? Clearly before the pandemic lots of people disagreed with his conclusions here as there was plenty of demand for them.

Methinks the author has no leverage on whether movie theaters live or die, and how their longevity or untimely death will come about. So I suspect that, yes, it will be the free market that decides, and it's unclear that anything was said to the contrary. Or that market forces were brought into the discussion in the first place.

Comment Re:it's been a long time coming (Score 3, Interesting) 178

Theaters are going through a long "slimming" process. This has been slowly happening since the invention of the TV, but has really picked up the pace since the introduction of HD, the flat screen TV, and streaming. COVID-19 only accelerated this process. The quality you can get at home is mostly better than the theater experience anyway. Watching a movie in the theater is becoming less about quality and enjoing the movie and more about a "shared experience". I don't think that "shared experience" is going away, but I find it unlikely that theaters will ever recover to the level they were in the 90s. My prediction is that there will be fewer and fewer of them, but there will always be a few around.

And with a little planning, the "shared experience" need not have a theater. My GF has been doing a Horror Movie Night with a loose-knit group of people for a couple of years now, usually they take turns hosting at their respective abodes. Often between 6-12 people to make it manageable in someone's home.

For now it's gone online with things like Netflix Party (or whatever it's rebranded as now). The upside is that the "host" doesn't have to prep their place. They'll often group-video-chat for the first half hour, often streaming from their kitchen while they're making either dinner, snacks, popcorn. Then they settle in to watch the movie, with a chat window going on in parallel. Afterwards it's back to video to discuss the movie.

I've done the online version with her twice, and it's not bad. The prep-the-food-and-chat section is amiable, the chat window allows you to not be disturbed by commentary (though it distracts you more if you engage in the commentary), and the post-film video conference is almost as good as in-person. Plus the host doesn't have to deal with stragglers who can't take a hint that the night is over

Post-Covid it will probably go back to in-person, but what's happening now is actually pretty good considering the limitations.

Comment Re:Movie Theatres (Score 1) 131

Also despite a lot of Slashdot grumpy old men. A lot of people actually go to share the experience with other people. When there is a joke, and a lot of people in the audience laugh at it, or when the bad guy is defeated the audience applause, you feel more connected and invested into what is going on. Because the Movie becomes a communal activity.

I remember back in the day, watching Austin Powers alone on PPV, and wondering why the hell anyone thought it was good. Fast-forward a few years, and a residency colleague of my then-spouse wanted to go see the sequel. We agreed, but at the time I jokingly called it a "four-beer movie", as in, that's how many beers you'd need to have to enjoy the movie. Well the joke was on me, because when watching it on opening night in a packed theater, with everyone laughing uproariously to the humor, I found the movie a lot more enjoyable.

Comment Re:Movie Theatres (Score 1) 131

It's not the size of the screen. A 50 ft diagonal screen viewed from 120 ft away will appear the same size to your eyes as a 50" TV viewed from 10 ft away. They both occupy 23.5 degrees of your field of view (diagonal). The only difference the screen size makes is how far you have to focus to see the screen (at the same FOV).

On point, more or less.

If the pandemic kills off the theaters, my hunch is it'll be replaced by video conference movie-watching sessions. You and a bunch of friends watch the same movie at the same time, but you're also able to all hear and talk with each other during the movie in MST3K fashion. We're already seeing this in live streaming services like Twitch and YouTube (although the audience there just types messages that everyone sees). Some film/TV show streaming services even time index the comments people type as they're watching, and replay the comments at the appropriate time them whenever someone else watches. So you get to experience the audience reaction even though you didn't all watch it at the same time.

There will need to be some impressive tech in place to keep the movie front-and-center while the group response is strong enough to register but not so strong as to interfere. My GF does "horror movie night" with a rotating group of friends and acquaintances, which moved to virtual during Covid., The past two times have been when we've been hanging out together, so I got to share in the fun. The videoconference prior to and after the movie are reasonable facsimiles for the in-person experience (though not the same), but during the movie all we have is a chat window which I find to be both distracting yet nowhere near the same level of engagement as the occasional side-comment mid-movie.

But otherwise I agree, the pandemic has opened up a new mode of shared movie experience that is probably here to stay, and will likely get better as it matures.

Comment Re:This is why lockdowns are good for the economy (Score 2) 131

Just letting the virus run has huge, and long-lasting, economic impacts. Worse than an occasional, short, lockdown.

That's certainly an argument if it weren't also a straw man. There is nobody asking to allow any virus to run through the population, leaving large numbers of people dead or permanently disabled.

I won't quote your entire post, but it's not April anymore. There's no serious argument being made that our only tool is lockdown. We know that masks help. A lot. We know more about the relative risks of various activities within the economy. As one Public Health official put it: "It's more like a dimmer than an on/off switch". So you're inferring quite a bit about what's meant by "lockdown". In November 2020 it means something different than April 2020. Or at least, it should.

There's been no recorded death from COVID-19 to anyone under the age of 10 years old in the USA. It's safe to open daycare centers, preschools, and grade schools.

See my post above. It may be safe (though I think you are discounting the danger to the staff), but the impact of community spread makes it logistically difficult to keep those institutions operating.

Deaths and disability from COVID-19 for people aged 10 to 40 years is exceedingly small. People in this age group should be allowed to choose to go to school, work, socialize, and so on. We can certainly take precautions, make allowances for people that choose to stay home, and so on.

Yet another failure to account for asymptomatic spread from the less-vulnerable to the more vulnerable. And it's unclear that long-term health impacts (what you call "disability") is all that small. I've seen figures of 30%, but the fact is we simply won't know until we see the long-term health outcomes of the "recovered" population.

I'm seeing people like yourself think that there's only two options here, lock down or do nothing. We can take a scientific approach here. We know children are highly unlikely to be affected or spread COVID-19. We know young adults with no chronic medical condition are also quite safe. Risks increase with age and we can provide options for people to manage their risks. The risks are never zero because with every precaution taken against COVID-19 there's a risk for something else. There's certainly an economic cost to every precaution.

A lock down is to "flatten the curve", the total area under the curve remains the same. This means the same number of people dead or disabled just not all bunched up together where it threatens the economy. That's been the story from the beginning, it seems some people got the idea that a lock down could put an end to a virus. That's not how a lock down works.

You accuse the OP of a strawman, and present another yourself. Per my response above, there are experts who see this as a continuum rather than a binary choice. You also are stuck in the April mindset of a lockdown being solely to flatten the curve. What we really need to be doing (and to date, have done a piss-poor job of) is to get to the point of suppression, but also have enough testing and contact-tracing in place to prevent the inevitable outbreaks from overwhelming our ability to test-and-trace our way through to the point where a vaccine is a viable tool.

In short, we are back to lockdowns again because our first-wave lockdowns had inadequate follow-through. It was entirely predictable that if all we do is have a lockdown but then decline to invest in the other mitigation tools available, we would end up back to where a lockdown becomes the only viable tool again.

Comment Re:This is why lockdowns are good for the economy (Score 1) 131

All of the people who shout that we must not lock down to preserve the economy are completely failing to consider the economic effects of not locking down.

Yeah, here in NH the school districts are dialing back to remote, nominally to get through to the other side of the sh*t-show that will be the holidays. The reasoning is understandable given the current environment: it's not that the schools are having community transmission, it's that the community transmission is affecting the ability to run the school. Having staff and students in quarantine, the staff who live in neighboring towns suddenly having a child care crisis due to other schools pivoting to remote, and clearly none of this getting better anytime soon, led to the decision to be proactive rather than reactive.

But here we are with gyms and restaurants still open---no doubt contributing to the environment that is shutting down the schools. About the only thing NH changed recently was formally adding a mask mandate, which probably won't change much given many towns and businesses already require them.

Then I read about other parts of the country's idea of "lockdown" being that bars and restaurants have to close by 10pm. On top of that you've got MA with a mask mandate that includes outdoors, even if there's nobody near you. Then their most recent move being to exclude NH and ME from the travel exemption. I mean, with people openly declaring that they are going to have a pretend-Covid-doesn't-exist Thanksgiving come hell or high water, I get what they are trying to do. But MA has a higher rate-per-100K than the states they removed from the exemption. So to me this all starts to resemble security theater, and not making the tough decisions that with actually make a difference and shorten the time that effective restrictions would be in place.

All very frustrating.

Comment On the fence (Score 3, Interesting) 131

There's a local dinner theater chain (three locations) which is a bit quirky, and the movie experience is slightly compromised by the eating arrangement, but back before 'rona I used to patronize it regularly. Was a chance to enjoy some decent-quality pub food while watching a 1st-run movie, and getting out of the house and out of my head. Back when the kids were little, was a two-fer: entertainment and I didn't have to make dinner.

Right now, I basically am not patronizing restaurants due to the inability to adequately distance, plus the length of time spent indoors at the mercy of ventilation of unknown quality. Stretch that risk profile out to be the length of a feature movie, and no thanks. I'll wait until things improve, I just hope the establishment will still be in business. Frankly I'm amazed it's still around. Even more amazed that people attend given where the 'rona numbers are going.

Then compare that to the fact that I impulse-purchased a 4K 55" TV from Target last month for a crazy price of $400. Biggest issue was how it fit in the built-in bookshelves, but once me and my teenagers made it work, it's pretty freakin' fantastic for the price. This wasn't even my main home theater screen (a 55" Plasma in the basement with a much better sound system). I'm now tempted to upgrade that puppy to something like 75" and go one notch up on panel quality. At that point I just need to hire a Personal Pub Food Chef...

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