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Comment Re:I thought this was Slashdot. (Score 1) 90

It's well known the DNC cheated Sanders and that Hillary received one (1) debate question ahead of time (that she gave a poor answer to anyways).

The "adoption" talking points came from Trump Sr in an attempt to minimize the meeting. https://www.washingtonpost.com...

Not to mention that discussing adoption would be a discussion of Russian sanctions...

To be honest, I don't know the exact details. It's well established that the Russians hacked the DNC and dozens of state elections. It's also well established that they sought to help the Trump campaign win and the Trump campaign was complicit and willing to get them involved.
Any number of things could have been discussed in the meeting, but the meeting itself it really just the tip of the iceberg that PROVES the Trump campaign colluded with the Russians.

Comment Re:I thought this was Slashdot. (Score 1) 90

Well golly, that changes everything!

Wait, no, it just changes "downloaded remotely" to "downloaded locally". It doesn't change at all that top members of the Trump campaign were meeting with Russians to work on the campaign. Tell me, does the right-leaning media ever show you this incriminating paragraph:

The Crown prosecutor of Russia met with his father Aras this morning and in their meeting offered to provide the Trump campaign with some official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia and would be very useful to your father. This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government's support for Mr. Trump - helped along by Aras and Emin.

Comment Re:I thought this was Slashdot. (Score 1) 90

Well on the Russian side, they hacked the DNC servers and found information that they then provided to the Trump campaign and released on WikiLeaks.
The Trump side publicized the information provided and used it quite often in their campaign materials, even pushing the insane conspiracy theories.

This isn't surprise information that no body else knows. Most people are aware of this, it's just Trump supporters that stick their heads in the sand whenever someone tries to explain it.

Please, do go on with your specific details and the impact of those actions on the minds of voters in places like, say, Wisconsin

Sure, the voter in Wisconsin saw negative news reports on the Clinton campaign (emails hacked, campaign details, etc) and those reports + other stories were being pushed by the Trump campaign which caused them to be disheartened and not vote.

Now you seem to be thinking that all the collusion happened in the 20 minute meeting, but that's not what anyone is saying. The meeting is just evidence that the Trump campaign was engaging in collusion willingly AND sought to hide that they were doing so.

Comment Re:I thought this was Slashdot. (Score 1) 90

You mean, the one where the Russians kept doing the same thing in 2016 that they've been doing for decades? That one?

No, the Russians had a much larger campaign to disrupt the election involving the internet and social media that wasn't possible in the past.

It is fun to see you throwing that sort of thing around with exactly zero attribution, of course.

Well I guess if you've been living under a rock, here are the emails tweeted out by Trump Jr: https://www.nytimes.com/intera...
And the relevant parts:

The Crown prosecutor of Russia met with his father Aras this morning and in their meeting offered to provide the Trump campaign with some official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia and would be very useful to your father. This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government's support for Mr. Trump - helped along by Aras and Emin.

If that's not solid evidence on collusion, I don't know what is.

Comment Re:I thought this was Slashdot. (Score 1) 90

The Trump dossier (which is being revealed to be more and more true as time passes) didn't come out until AFTER the election in the news so it's unrelated.

Hillary's email decisions weren't the "fake news", they were just a distraction from actual issues that the right kept hammering away (even though they're equally bad at email). Nice straw man though.

Fake news was stuff like "Hillary Clinton has brain cancer and only 6 months to live!" or "Hillary Clinton is running a child sex ring in the basement of a pizza parlor". The ridiculous stuff that's easily proven wrong and was just contrived to make people doubt Clinton's character.

Comment Re: CNN is the source of Fake News (Score 1) 352

Most news organizations reported on the dossier (though many left out the contents). Much of it has been revealed as true, but I haven't heard anything about it in months

It's not like they were going on about how Clinton was responsible for a terrorist attack for years, even after she was cleared of wrong doing.

Sure they have the occasional story that's not well sourced, but it's nothing compared to the right wing "news" organizations that push out lies.

Comment Re: CNN is the source of Fake News (Score 4, Interesting) 352

So a big fat 0%. Nice.

Originally, people talked about fake news like "Clinton has brain tumor and only 6 months to live" or "Birmingham in the UK is a 'no-go zone. Something that's been made up and has no basis in reality.

That's quite a bit different than being mean to Trump or a false story that was retracted and the people responsible were held accountable.

Now I won't say they have the highest quality stories, but they're a fare cry from the absolute lies that you'll see from right-wing sources.

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