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Comment Article doesn't go into details about quality (Score 5, Informative) 135

The article doesn't go into details about the quality of the program. The Obama administration removed funding, and Obama certainly isn't opposed to alternative energy. According to the article:

the Obama administration, while sharing the hope that nuclear fusion will one day be harnessed as a power source, concluded that the MIT experiment was a waste of taxpayer money. It deemed MIT’s facility outdated and small, the least scientifically useful of three domestic fusion reactors. Indeed, critics of the experiment said it amounts to a $1.5 million-per-student training program that MIT wants to keep going to protect its turf and prestige.

It would be interesting to see an analysis of what the program is actually accomplishing. It's not clear, and I don't have the expertise to determine whether the program is doing anything useful.

Comment Re:Turing Test Failed (Score 3, Interesting) 432

Bernie Cosell has this story about an exec being horribly tricked by his early Eliza bot:

"I got a little glimmer of fame because Danny Bobrow wrote up 'A Turing Test Passed".....One of the execs at BBN came into the PDP-I computer room and thought that Danny Bobrow was dialed into that and thought he was talking to Danny. For us folk that had played with ELIZA, we all recognized the responses and we didn't know how humanlike they were. But for somebody who wasn't real familiar with ELIZA, it seemed perfectly reasonable. It was obnnoxious but he actually thought it was Danny Bobrow. 'But tell me more about--' 'Earlier, you said you wanted to go to the client's place.' Things like that almost made sense in context, until eventually he typed something and he forgot to hit the go button, so the program didn't respond. And he thought that Danny had disconnected. So he called Danny up at home and yelled at him. And Danny has absolutely no idea what was going on......."

(reported in Coders at Work).

Comment Re:Outdated test (Score 1) 432

You mean to have all of them trying to figure out what each other is? That's a good idea, but make sure you don't give people motivation to pretend to be computers, because they will probably do a good job.

Comment Re:Seems correct (Score 3, Insightful) 53

Er... Why would Apple sue vendor using the Apple trademark to sell Apple products? That's what trademarks are *for*.

This is more like, imagine the iPhone was called instead the SpryntPhone. Sprint, the *carrier*, would object to Verizon and AT&T selling "SpyrntPhones" because it sounds like "Sprint Phones". They wouldn't object to those carriers selling "Samsung" phones because that doesn't affect their trademark.

Comment Re:Time to move the goalposts! (Score 0) 432

Whenever you see a comment like this, you know that the poster doesn't understand the topic at hand, and is taking the story at face-value.

Whether you "believe in" AI or not, progress is happening.

No, progress has not happened; what has happened is the guy made an Eliza-bot, which have been around (and tricking people) since the 60s.

Comment Re:Outdated test (Score 1) 432

Half your entrances are trying to convince you they are human, the other half that they are AI, and half of each are lying.

This is not going to work, because humans are much better at imitating Eliza-bots than the other way around. Until the computers get good, you are essentially testing the humans' ability to imitate.

Comment Re:Bjarne Stroustrup (Score 1) 636

Strange to compare it with COBOL. Cobol is particularly verbose, and stresses defining everything exactly up front.

Yeap, but it was explicitly designed to be readable, even by non-programmers.

Whereas Swift is concise, and always tries to avoid the need to explicitly state things where they are already fixed by context.

Just like Perl.

Any language can be abused to create unreadable code. For C they even have the Obfuscated C contest. It's part of a programmer's job to make his code readable and beautiful.

Yes. Once you realize that the language doesn't matter, the programmers matter, then you have reached wisdom. Every language is crappy.

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