so good apple tried to ban it!

you can't buy advertising that good!

disclaimer-very happy with the 7" tab

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yeah i'm trollin' :-)

video chat?

i was using video chat on a nokia n70n when they came out 2005-2006? worked fine on 3g with other nokia devices. even when i was surrounded by granite at my home location. only made a few test calls as video calls then and now hold no interest for me. always saw it as technology in search of a market that doesn't really exist.

because announcing that obama is alive and well and still running the us of a goes against everything they believe in? :-)

well here in ireland a prepay sim can be picked up with no paperwork and i think 5 euros every six months will keep it active and in credit. so 10 euros a year to run it?

it would be nice with a wifi model running voip to your mobile though.

problem was not symbian? would agree to that for the most part.

problem was 150 phones? disagree to that. they sell huge numbers of phones all over the world. different markets and different users have different requirements and i always could find something that fitted exactly what i wanted in their hardware range. better than the apple one size fits all policy.

i think their problem was the way they kept changing symbian so that addon software from one year would not work on next years phone. the platform while it didn't change much in look and feel changed enough so that every year i found i had to find new software to do what i was doing on last years phone. this pissed off developers who would often release only once or twice before abandoning the platform. in the time i had symbian devices i went through at least 4 different etext readers as the old software wouldn't work on the newer devices.

they never cared about creating a developer friendly platform. pity as it remains the only device i could write and run python software on. ase for android is getting better but is still not as good, yet.

just my 2c.

huh i would have thought a microsoft kernel would be along the lines of;
ProfessionalEnterpriseKernel NoBugsHere SafeAsHouses ReallyExpensiveSoMustBeGood

i'll just leave this here. :-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hP7Di7te5yM

> how often does that actually happen anymore?

not often. but when you feel down about it watch/read about

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McLibel_(film)

it will cheer you up.

the money was just resting in my account.

we need people who are this uncompromising:

to quote gb shaw;The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.

we need more like him. as crazy as they may seem.

yes! a free upgrade to vista! they'll pay for the win7 upgrade. through. the. nose. :-)

much more ably illuminated in blackadder :-)

Captain Darling: So you see, Blackadder, Field Marshall Haig is most anxious to eliminate all these German spies.
General Melchett: Filthy hun weasels, fighting their dirty underhand war!
Captain Darling: And fortunately, one of our spies...
General Melchett: Splendid fellows, brave heroes risking life and limb for Blighty!

so a firmware update to remove the phone functionality? if they can remove the other os option... :-)

haven't bought sony since 1997, not likely to buy for another 10 years. at least.

it was lots of little things and 1 big thing that killed it for me.

* position of headset socket. it was so awkwardly placed that every time i used it i worried that it was going to snag putting the phone in my pocket damaging the socket. also it was a 2.5mm socket so it was a non standard headset which annoyed me. better than the previous popport on other nokias but just annoying enough to irk me.
* global search. i stored 400-500 notes on the device. on the e61/e61i i'd select search type in what i was looking for and wait for a few seconds for it to be found. on the e71 i'd select search and then have to wait for up to a minute for the damned app to start as it loaded all the data to make the search 'faster'. this looked great in demos on small data sets but if you filled the device became an unacceptable delay.
* i tried leaving the global search program running all the time but as i found that loading data onto the device was quickest by ejecting the memory card and plugging it into a pc instead of depending on slow bluetooth. this shut down all apps running on the device so that 1-2 a week i'd have that damned fucking 1 minute stupid delay waiting for global search to start. usually when i was in a hurry which was more annoying. this pissed me off so much i contacted nokia to see if it was possible to install the previous search instead of the 'advanced' version. no joy there.
* after ejecting the card the music player would decide to search the media again for music even though none had been added. this was a 3 minute delay a few times a week that pissed me off no end as i wasn't adding extra music. whoever decided that this behaviour was acceptable should be fired.
* fragile. within a month of getting the device it fell off the top of my pc 18 inches onto carpet and the keyboard popped out. it popped back in easily enough but having come from previous nokias were you could hammer in a nail with the device it made me very wary of it.
* noisy. the camera autofocus made a beep which i found too annoyingly loud and there was no way to turn off.
* firmware updates. these required windows to install and as i only had a mac at home at the time i would have to scavenge around and assemble a windows pc just to do firmware updates. build a pc, connect it to the web, update the os and antivirus. update the nokia update software (there was always a new version). just to get a firmware update... bloody annoying!
* camera click. when i bought the device i made sure the camera could be made silent. it had been getting harder and harder on each new nokia device. i checked all notes of firmware updates to see if they mentioned breaking this. after updating 3 devices at once n70, e61i and e71 i found they all now had an unremoveable camera click. that was #1000 euro worth of hardware destroyed by updates. this upset me somewhat!

the camera click issue. to pre empt all the people who will jump in and offer advice and opinions.
* yes i tried everything. the best i got was a piece of software that made the camera silent but activated the flash. this was as bad as it made screen shots unreadable. others here in dublin offered help and opinions and none of them led anywhere. i could have started a firmware hunt to try and locate a copy of the firmware that would be silent but in the past that has taken days of effort and was not worth my time.
* no it is not a legal requirement in my country ireland. my iphone and htc hero take silent pictures.
* i hate noise. if you lived beside me and a ninja the ninja would be the noisy neighbour :-) the loudest sound from my desk should not be the stupid fucking camera click! only about 10% of users are bugged by the noise (this does not make their annoyance any less). i ended up giving away all the broken nokias and a person who had laughed when i told him why i thought it was now broken emailed me to tell me that he now found the noise as annoying since he had taken a picture in a book shop of a book he was interested in and the noise of the click made more than a few people look his way. it made him feel like a criminal. he's now more anti camera noise than i am.

the camera click law is dumb security theatre. a 640x480 camera phone is required to make a noise while a high definition video shot on a camera phone can be completely silent?

don't get me wrong the e71 was a dramatic overall improvement over previous nokias.
* gps that worked great even when indoors. using maps stored on the device rather than needing a data connection.
* compared to iphone and android it had a unbelieveable battery life measured in days.
* loved that it had a camera flash and fm radio.
* boost from the previous 2gb maximum storage was a god send.

but it annoyed me enough that i went from a nokia fan to nokia hater in 3 months. that took some doing! as i said most people aren't annoyed by the things that annoyed me yet most of the nokia users who laughed at my trouble now no longer use nokia either. what made them change their minds? something is definitely wrong with nokia when they can piss so many people off for different reasons.

sorry for the long post but trying to explain and pre empt the people who usually offer suggestions of things that i have tried.