There is much emotion and strong politics involved in CC.
I'm not a scientist nor trained in climate science. and find it hard to gather information that is neither too science heavy/too dispersed nor too politicised/emotional.
For the unitiated like myself, can the community recommend a book that can give good primer on where we are on CC, with compelling evidence of AGW?
All suggestions welcome.
For the physics of radiant heat transfer (which is the fundemental basis of the greenhouse effect) there is an excellent blog:
http://scienceofdoom.com/
As for compelling evidence of A (with emphasis on the A) GW., there you will have to get help from others. I haven't found any. For compelling evidence of GW on the other hand, google Ice Age. A good book on geology will provide background on climate change over the last few billion years. If you learn some geology, you will learn that CO2 levels have previously been 10 times higher than today, though rarely much lower. You will learn that climate can change dramatically in a very short period of time. You will learn that our climate today is relatively cool compared to almost all time since the earth formed billions of years ago. You will then scratch your head and ask what all the excitement is about. Don't ask someone though. They will call you a skin headed denier of a flat earth creationist.
You lose all credibility the instant you link to the Daily Mail.
How about from Dr. Curry herself then.
Here:
http://judithcurry.com/2011/10/30/discussion-with-rich-muller/#more-5540
Denialists rely upon a narrative. After all, they are faced with an insurmountable amount of repeated observations stretching back 100 years - the entirety of human reasoning and science is against them. The only way for Denialism to seem reasonable is to formulate a narrative, a myth based on an evil conspiracy of scientists colluding to hide the actual truth. Its all a conspiracy! That explains why the science is all in agreement!
Muller has destroyed that narrative. By formulating a test outside of the conspiracy in the narrative, he has demonstrated that the narrative is myth. The CRU was right. GISS was right. The narrative that they colluded to fake the data is debunked.
Not sure where this "conspiracy" meme is coming from. Possibly the Laframboise book. Anyway, one doesn't need a conspiracy. Only a whole lot of money to be made. Also, I'm a "denialist" (nice Godwin by the way). Here is what I know to be true.
1: Global Warming is real
2: The greenhouse effect is real
3: CO2 is the second largest contributor to the greenhouse effect
4: While the effect of water is greater, the effect of CO2 will be cumulative, hence we can (mostly) ignore the effect of water.
What pray tell are you suggesting I'm denying?
The fact that human activity is the source of most of the CO2 increase has been documented. CO2 outputs can and have been measured, and there is no doubt that human activity is the cause of the increase. That *you* can doubt this shows that you are being influenced by the denialists. We are rapidly approaching the point where we will be unable to prevent global temperatures from rising higher than they have ever been during the existence of humans. Do you really think it likely that we will do *better* in an environment that we did not evolve to live in?
I see you didn't quote the parent. You are talking about increased CO2 being a result of human activity. The original poster was talking about human activity impacting climate. I would be someone you would call a denier. Here are things I'm sure of. Please point out what I'm denying.
1.Global Warming is real.
2.Humans have impacted climate, particularly by gaseous pollutants. Methane will have an impact on climate, CFC’s really do chew up the ozone layer. SO2 has cooled the world. (and probably accounts for the cooling from 1945 to 1975 and may account for the flat lining over the last 10 years)
3.The “greenhouse effect” or the increase in atmospheric temperature due to absorption of electromagnetic radiation, is real.
4.CO2 is the second largest contributor to the greenhouse effect.
5. Though water is the largest contributor to the greenhouse effect, the CO2 affect is cumulative to this, so it is important.
If you get your information from realclimate, or worse New Scientist, the fact that most deniers agree with all these points is probably news to you. But they do. So you can see why denier is not only a derogatory term, it is also wrong. Skeptics yes. Deniers? Not so much.
Sorry, Couldn't help but reply.
You really need to do some thinking of your own. Without questioning the conclusions of each of the articles in question, if these are the arguments being used to come to the conclusions, someone needs to go back to school. From the first article regarding the relative size of human impacts, this quote (and it is in context)
"It is true that human emissions of CO2 are small compared with natural sources. But the fact that CO2 levels have remained steady until very recently shows that natural emissions are usually balanced by natural absorptions."
tells me that the author has never seen the Vostock ice core records of CO2 levels.
The article about doing something about climate change is the usual destroy the economy stuff. Given that the article does not differentiate between human caused climate change and natural climate change gives one pause.
The higher level of CO2 doesn't increase plant growth article has these insightful things to say in proving that CO2 doesn't boost plant growth. Again, these are in context. Read the articles if you don't think they are.
"Where water is a limiting factor, all plants could benefit."
and
"These experiments suggest that higher CO2 levels could boost the yields of non-C4 crops by around 13 per cent."
Just to be clear, there is a very strong case that human emissions are significant enough to matter. The article you quote is clueless as to what that case is. Those New Scientist articles are horrible. They are horrible because they are so easily rebutted. If I were a "denier", I would encourage everyone to read them. As Napolean said, never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.
What is research but a blind date with knowledge? -- Will Harvey