If you go to the Drupal page, you get a lot about how great Drupal is, and one line about "and we use one of these databases". So I think my analogy is spot on. Further, if you do more than read the linked Docker announcement, the fact they are layered on LXC is pretty much all over the docs. Or do you suggest we have to start referring to it as "LXC/Docker" to make sure noone could possibly not know there's a connection.

I'm not sure what the point is here. I mean, I suppose your right in the same sense as Drupal is a front end for a database and PHP is a front end for a web server. I just don't get the derisive tone.

ACs are so cute.

Docker is indeed hot right now, for some pretty good reasons.

• - (Relatively) easy to use management wrapper around LCX, in particular quick deployment and a templating mechanism to describe container contents and deal with dependencies
• - Uses a union filesystem to thiny provision containers, with development work to use other filesystem mechanisms to achieve the same goal
• - There's a ecosystem to share containers similar to ecosystems around sharing pre-built virtual machines
• - Backed by a commercial company

Sure...done before. Evolution, not revolution. Very useful if you fit it's use case.

As far as I can tell it's a chroot jail with different limitations. FTFY

If you had to guess what a piece of software called "Apache" did, what would you think? If you had to guess what a piece of software called "Hadoop" did, what would you think? If you had to guess what a piece of software called "C" did, what would you think? If you had to guess what a piece of software called "Postgres" did, what would you think? If you had to guess....blah, blah, blah...

Yes...I hate it when people don't explain what that whole "linux" and "java" thing is when they post. If I don't know what it is, noone does.

Whoa...looks like they're trying to get a head start on that whole royal inbreeding thing.

Let me guess...overwhelmingly male, overwhelmingly white, angry that women and swarthy people are horning in on their privileges. Folks for whom the Tea Party didn't work out. Fun bunch, to be sure.

Let me guess, you're a holocaust and climate change denialist too. Same hyper-selective use of facts to "prove" your point, while pretending the huge number of facts you excluded don't completely destroy your argument.

Point of fact, a nuclear war in Sagans era wouldn't have been about cooking off 500 devices over two decades or so, it would have been about slinging 50,000 devices over a day or two.

It's really maddening, because it's not possible to know if you're trolling or you really believe your steaming pile of shit.

Of course, if you want a gigabit switch that does layer-3, you're talking about $$$$, even on eBay.

I've had excellent luck with Dell L3 Gig switches off eBay. You can usually pick up an older 6000-series for around ~$300 and much less if your patient.

Also, if you can do fiber gig, the Cisco 3550-12G and 4912G can be had for much less than $100.

I'm using used Cisco, Nortel and Dell gear purchased off eBay at home extensively. YMMV.

I've picked up Cisco 7200 and 3600 routers for less than $250 with a couple of 100baseT interfaces that can route and basic firewall at wire speed. Even a 4700 with 2 100baseT interfaces can keep up (barely). Just make sure that you get the software image you need, as you have to pay to upgrade (or steal it).

I'm pretty 'meh' on Cisco switches. They command a premium, and really aren't superior. I'd never pick up a Cisco chassis switch for the house; too loud and too much power draw. The Cisco gigabit switches generally are wildly overpriced. Almost anybodies gig copper managed switch can handle the home load. That said, if you have access to fiber NICs (dirt cheap), GBICs and fiber cables, things like a C3550-12G, C4812G and C3508G are going for dirt and are solid switches.

Dell switches are a tremendous value, especially considering the feature set (VLANs, QoS, LAG/LACP, etc). They upgrade the lines quickly (creating turnover on the secondary market), update even old ones and the software updates are free.

Nortel BayStack switches go for basically pin money because Nortel is no more and enterprise users are dumping them as fast as they can. They're every bit as good as the equivalent Cisco. Avoid the Nortel firewall/VPN gear; you really need to be able to get software updates on those, and you won't.

There's a vast amount of enterprise WLAN gear being dumped for pennies because most everyone is upgrading to 802.11n. I see keeping my 11a gear for years, as 54/108Mb is enough for almost everything an end-point needs short of 1080p streaming and 5GHz keeps you out of baby monitor and cordless phone hell. Just don't pick up anything that needs a controller to be useful.

P.S. - What everyone else said...get a UPS. Seriously.

P.P.S - Look at things like Vyatta and Linux/BSD based alternatives. Other than switches, I've pretty much ditched my enterprise options for these. I'm running them on retired, last generation, enterprise Dell servers. Loud, but rock solid.

True. The vast majority of postmortems my team has done show the compromised server was "low hanging fruit", usually because of poor patching. I wait patiently for the day that IT Ops people learn that the bullshit "why patch the box, it's stable?" attitude is going to screw them in the end. I may not live that long, however.

It has been done before.

AT&T donated many, many millions of dollars of infrastructure to Georgia Tech in the 80s under that theory. Since we don't seem to be using 3B2 decendants, DMD & BLIT terminals, running StarLAN or Datakit networks, and even the "Unix" we use is more often than not Linux, I don't think they'd do that again.