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Comment Re:Belief in science? (Score 1) 434

I'm not arguing that the "lots of people believe it" rationale is a good, rational reason for adhering to a belief; only that it is a common part of human (ir)rationality, compared to general rejection of "lone crackpot" propositions.

Though it kind of implies that the first followers of any religion are the followers of a lone crackpot...

But you're right: religion is a very social phenomenon. I've wondered whether autistic types are less likely to buy in to it.

Comment Re:It would be interesting, if tricky... (Score 1) 434

We are already doing this test. Haven't you noticed that the older people get and the closer to death, the more likely they are to turn to God?

Several years ago I was deathly ill and the doctors had no idea what was wrong with me. For several weeks no one knew whether I was going to live or die.

God never crossed my mind. I can't begin to imagine how you think I would find it comforting to suddenly pin my hopes on your god, Marduk, the FSM, an IPU, Russell's Teapot, or anything else I don't actually believe in.

Comment Re:flying and turbulence (Score 1) 434

I find that weird. People seem to be often fond of adrenaline sports, and many adrenaline sports are more risky than flying in a turbulence. Why not simply lay back and enjoy it?

When it's really mild, you can close your eyes and imagine that you're on a train. Or think back to when you were a kid and slept on the back seat while Dad drove down that not-quite-perfect highway on the family vacation.

Comment Re:Science works (Score 4, Insightful) 434

She lived longer than all his other patients, double over the next highest person.

Ummm. The fact that she lived longer than other patients just means that she lived longer than other patients. I am sure that some patients lived a lot less than other patients. It had nothing to do with god. It had to do with the fact that people react to diseases and treatments differently. Some people live longer than some people who live longer than some people.

IMO the common conceit that "God healed/rescued me/Granny", while letting all the others suffer and die, is the very pinnacle of arrogance.

Comment Re:Science works (Score 2) 434

Which is why the belief that the universe started with a big bang, for example, is faith-based.

People who aren't trying to bring science down to the level of their own superstitions would call it evidence-based.

Or when you look in the oven and see that your biscuits are brown, do you consider your conclusion that they're done to be a faith-based belief?

Or any of thousands of other evidence-based conclusions that you readily accept because they don't conflict with your religious beliefs.

Comment Re:I can answer that, Alex! (Score 1) 143

AI has languished for about 60 years now, mostly because it is not a science. There is no formal definition of intelligence, and no roadmap for what to study. As a result, the field studies everything-and-the-kitchen-sink and says: "this is AI!".

You're assuming that AI is supposed to mean something like HAL 9000. The overwhelming majority of AI researchers are just trying to figure out good ways to solve much smaller problems. A tiny minority are trying to model some behavioral or cognitive phenomenon. Only cranks and con artists are trying to make something like HAL 9000.

Some things AI researchers have been doing are being adopted for commerce and industry. And that appears to be accelerating.

Comment Re:Belief in science? (Score 1, Insightful) 434

If I insisted that there were three invisible planets orbiting the sun between Jupiter and Saturn, most people would think I was a crackpot.

If I insisted that there was an invisible being that spoke the whole universe into being, plus a lot of other invisible stuff like Heaven and souls, most people would think I knew what I was talking about.

Go figure...

Comment Re:Science works (Score 1) 434

I don't think that's strictly true.

To believe in science (and to disbelieve in religion), one needs to believe that the elements needed to create the big bang came into existence of their own accord and that the laws of physics decided to invent themselves.

Science is great up to a point; it can tell us what happened and how it happened. But when you go back far enough, it does requires the belief that everything which set off the chain of events somehow came into being without an intelligent creator.

Why should I have any more trouble believing in an uncaused universe than in an uncaused divinity?

Actually, the atheist assumes less, because s/he merely assumes the universe. The theist has to assume a god that can speak the universe into being. (Plus heaven, hell, souls, etc.)

Ockham says, cut out the middle man.

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