Comment Re:Nokia open sourced Qt under the LGPL (Score 1) 262
One wikipedia link does not a series of detailed points refute!
Before 2005 Qt was distributed under the license you linked to, and not under the GPL -- the point being?
One wikipedia link does not a series of detailed points refute!
Before 2005 Qt was distributed under the license you linked to, and not under the GPL -- the point being?
Thanks for confirming.
Reminds me of http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/07/14/1245204. Slashdot seems to like spinning it like Ubuntu wants to move to Qt more than is actually the case.
This is about building GNOME applications with JavaScript, and GNOME runs on many different platforms, of which Linux is one, so why in the world is the headline Building Linux Applications With JavaScript?
Oh, kdawson. Explains it.
Qt was already Open Source, of course, under the GPL.
That is not entirely accurate.
Sorry, but that _is_ entirely accurate. Qt _was_ already very much free software and open source, under the GPL.
You could not use the "Free" version of Qt to develop a closed source application.
That is the case with ANY GPL licensed library!
The GPL version of Qt was intended by Trolltech to only be used for educational, non-commercial, and personal use.
It is not true that the GPL'd version of Qt couldn't be used for commercial software development -- any GPL'd software can be used in creating any other piece of software, whether commercial or not. Maybe you meant to say proprietary rather than commercial?
It was certainly not a traditional GPL software development toolkit in the sense of the restrictions placed on the developer.
It WAS a "traditional GPL software development toolkit" in the sense of the rules you had to follow when using it, yes. EVERY other GPL'd library comes with the same restrictions.
I don't know of any other open-source development environments, or widget toolkits that carry these same type of restrictions.
Again, see every other GPL'd library.
(I posted this a minute ago and it showed up as posted by an AC! This is the second time very recently I've had a comment show up as AC even though I swear I hadn't checked that box. A bug in the new discussion system? Has anyone else experienced the same?)
So in other words they are NOT seriously consider basing ubuntu mobile on qt or kde in the future? Just so I'm sure I understand right what you're saying... if that is in fact what you're saying. (If it is, it would be somewhat of a relief.)
Just like Debian GNU/Linux couldn't possibly exist without the work of, say, the GNU and Linux developers.
You know, there'd be no need to duck if you'd just say "derived from" instead of "ripped off"
I don't usually reply to people's sigs, but since this is a politics discussion already it's not that OT, but it just struck me that it might be easier for arabs to love their children if Israel would, like, you know, stop killing their children, if you see what I mean.
Blaarrh.... old joke.
Though I wouldn't want to type on him.
You should check out Codeweavers Crossover Games. It works better than Cedega from my experience, and it's a friendly commercial version of Wine (similar to what StarOffice is for OpenOffice), rather than a hostile fork like Cedega.
...or until you want to buy a new laptop, even to run a non-Microsoft OS on.
I strongly disagree with you about the Microsoft deal. And I'm not particularly fond of Mono either -- and I don't understand Miguel de Icaza's absurd obsession with anything that comes out of Redmond (see: Moonlight, for example).
Secondly, I just checked, and you can download a free copy of Mandriva.
Okay. I didn't know that.
Guess what you cannot get for free from Canonical? Support that does not involve an IRC channel or message board.
Neither can you from Red Hat or Novell, I would suspect...
Canonical also charges more for a single support license than Red Hat or Novell.
I don't care what Canonical charges! I'm not interested in buying any support contracts. I merely replied to your point about why Ubuntu was getting so much attention, and now it feels like I'm expected to defend Canonical's business desicions all of a sudden
Fedora is Red Hat's declared desktop strategy, and the latest edition (Fedora 10) is excessively easy to install and use, and *just works,* under the same definition of "just works" that the Ubuntu fans use. Fedora is as suitable for "regular users" as Ubuntu is
On http://www.redhat.com/software/rhelorfedora/, Fedora is described as being something you should use if you are a "Developer or highly technical enthusiast".
(And I thought "just works" was a GNOME motto that Ubuntu adopted? Maybe I remember incorrectly.)
So your argument basically amounts to this: Novell and anything they sponsor is bad, because they have a deal with Microsoft,
Something like that
except when you need something they put a lot of work into like Mono, in which case it is OK,
I don't care about Mono. Mono could die tomorrow and it wouldn't concern me.
Mandriva is bad because they used to charge for some packages,
I didn't know it was free of charge now. I still wouldn't choose to run it, though. But I didn't say it was "bad", I just replied to your question about why Ubuntu was getting so much attention.
and Fedora is not suitable for end users because you said so.
No, because Red Hat said so! Big difference.
But Ubuntu is OK because it is free, not involved in a Microsoft deal
I'd throw in "and Debian-based", which I happen to like a lot, but yeah
, and never mind the fact that they just rebrand the work of everyone else.
Why all the Ubuntu-hating? It's a nice distro. You're making it sound like I hate Fedora or Red Hat! I don't! I'm fully aware of their MASSIVE contribution to the GNU/Linux desktop! I support them! I'd own shares in Red Hat if I could afford to buy any! All I'm saying is that Ubuntu is the distribution I choose to install on the machines of my family/girlfriend/friends/etc., because it's nice and neat and polished and just works.
I'm not really sure you live in a very diverse area. I've worked in semiconductors, and know plenty of people in the software business. Gay's are not a minority. Most gays are usually quite well educated, which is more than I can say regarding the majority of Americans.
Gays are a minority in America. They're not a minority in higher-level jobs requiring an education.
I don't get it. Are you seriously saying that most (or half of) people working in higher-level jobs are gay? That there are as many or more gays as not working in those jobs? Or does the word "minority" have some unique meaning here that I'm totally unaware of?
"Fedora also works out of the box now [...] Mandriva is back on its feet, OpenSUSE is less of a pain, etc. Seriously, why do people focus on Ubuntu?"
Because Novell/SUSE is in bed with Microsoft, Mandriva costs money, and Fedora, while great for it's purpose, is specifically not targeted at regular/non-technical users (there's RHEL for that, but that costs money).
Ubuntu costs no money, is suitable for regular users, and is not in bed with Microsoft.
You're reading your parent post wrong. It never mentioned anything about sending the whole response back in 10 seconds; only for the server to accept the connection in that timeframe.
That's what they want you to think.
I tell them to turn to the study of mathematics, for it is only there that they might escape the lusts of the flesh. -- Thomas Mann, "The Magic Mountain"
