Comment Re:we run Windows because we have to (Score 1) 496
If you rely on a third world sheeper for your core infrastructure then you are quite fucked! Penny wise pound foolish if something happens and they can't figure it out fast enough. I can see help desk going over there, but the loss of productivity from one user to the whole fucking enterprise is HUGE.
Things never are the same and consisent everyday. One example is when a client moved to Windows 7 a whole fucking group of people just got a hang on the welcome screen/can not estable trust relationship error for 3 days. It was annoying and our admin worked like mad to solve it. Turns out a bug from Windows Vista still in Windows 7 had an issue with a TCP ARP entry from an old OU where the group still had members of both
Name a brochure or a stack of proceedures for something like this? There is none. You need to be a pretty damn advanced know it all to be a compotent admin.
I think for advanced users METRO is not a big deal as I could theoretically get shit done on Windows 8. It just takes longer to do the same task but that is because I use the gui all day if I use it as a desktop and the start screen blocks everything and forces the human brain to switch context when I am in the train of thought unlike Windows 7's version of instant search. 8.1 at least matches its featureset ugh. But, we are advanced users and so are admins. All the stuff is there you just have to go page page page and click the hot corners to find a gui app. Most of Microsofts new server products really need powershell such as exchange. But that is just setup once up and running it is back to Windows 7 via MMC and powershell terminals at their desks.
I never see the guis of Windows server except when I walk in the room so it is different and if they need a gui tool they can still find it with Metro but it might take longer, but this is different than a desktop usage.
If your admins do not know how to use it still then FIRE THEM. It is not worth millions on hour if they are not certified and know how to do these things via automation in a real production environment. There are books, VMWare is fairly cheap, and there is virtualbox too if you are dirtcheap where you can learn this over the course of a year at home where you can setup virtual networks. That is how I learned Exchange 2007 and setting up OWA etc. Yes they need to be professionals cooks and not chefs using a recipe unless it is a small business server.
But that is just me. I would prefer to keep Windows 7 but would love Windows 2012 server as long as I do not have to sit physically in front of it.