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Comment Re:It's surprising people still don't get it. (Score 1) 282

Actually, -10 F doesn't really impact an EV. A little less range is all. [1][2] The issues seen in some parts of Chicago last winter were specific to a set of charging stations that had issues, not EVs in general. It was cold all over, and only a couple of charging stations had issues.

One of my coworkers was in South Dakota over the frigid spell, visiting his mother. He was planning on driving home (Virginia), but SD was telling all cars to stay off the road -- it was so cold that oil wasn't warming enough and gasoline engines were siezing up on the road. Diesel was already gelled, so they weren't going anywhere for the duration.

I agree, the binary thinking is irritating. I made my decision based on having at home charing, minimal long distance driving, and fairly near population centers just in case. It is a different calculation if you can't charge at home.

[1] Not including Nissan Leaf's, the one major EV that doesn't have a temperature regulated battery. Everyone else learned from them and conditions the batteries.

[2] Percentage drop is just that, a percentage. I'll take a 20% drop from a base of 105 MPGe over a 10% drop from a 30 MPG any day.

Comment Re:It's surprising people still don't get it. (Score 1) 282

This exactly. Not having the garage and having to install the pedestal and buried lines, that was my big cost. I spent the extra $50 for the pedestal that can mount two chargers and left a pull-rope in the oversized buried conduit. At any time I can install a second charger for pretty much just the price of the charger -- a couple hundred $$.

Comment Re:It's surprising people still don't get it. (Score 1) 282

You can cherry pick rare-if-never scenarios all day long. I'm telling you from experience these are molehills and you're imagining mountains.

The odds of both cars being driven until dead and needing to charge RIGHT NOW is about the same odds as me hitting Powerball lotto.

You're missing the point that normally the car is FULLY TOPPED OFF EVERY MORNING -- 250ish miles of range -- so the scenarios you're dreaming up are verging on the impossible. I mean me driving 250 miles in one day and absolutely needing to charge assumes I was comfortable with coasting in to my driveway on fumes instead of just stopping somewhere to add some charge for 5-10 minutes. At the same time, my kid's car is driven to dead and no one bothered to charge at all...just go to the nearest fast charger and hit it for 5-10 mintues.

Comment Re:It's surprising people still don't get it. (Score 2) 282

You know EVs have a charge gauge similar to a fuel gauge, right? No fire drill necessary. End of day, plug car in. First ride, unplug car. Other car is wife's/kid's issue and they just unplug mine and plug theirs in if needed. Oh, and there are apps for that.

Again, with the limited mileage the average American puts on a vehicle (~ 30 miles a day), there is no "keep up". No anxiety of "do I have enough charge". Just drive the car, charge when you need to if you go far, plug in when you get home. It really just blends into the background and is MUCH easier than stopping at a gas station.

Comment Re:It's surprising people still don't get it. (Score 2) 282

The scenario presented was charging at home with multiple EVs, so don't move the goalposts with not charging at home being an issue. That's a different question with a different answer.

My one charger is in the center, at the end of my driveway. The cable reaches both vehicles without issue. My EV is more convenient than ICE ever way. Every day I leave fully topped off, which never happens with an ICE vehicle. I don't have to wait for my vehicle to warm up before driving, or worry about the engine oil not being warm enough to protect the engine. No timing chain, no serpentine belt, no points, plugs, transmission, engine oil, and no concerns about contaminated gasoline.

If an EV isn't worth it for you, wonderful. You do you. But the scenario presented that I was responding to is a non-EV owner's fears and not realistic. That's all I was pointing out.

Comment Re:It's surprising people still don't get it. (Score 1) 282

The cord is long enough to reach the cars. Each car takes about two hours a day worth of charge, sometimes less. I can let them sit for days without charging on normal usage.

This isn't a matter of diligent. People overthink charging if you have a home charger. I plug in at the end of my last trip of the day and unplug on the first. If one of the kids needs the charger, they charge. I leave my driveway every day fully topped off. Zero people do that with gasoline cars. If I drive so much I need to charge during a trip, I do. It just isn't an issue.

I understand it can be depending on where you live, availability of chargers, etc. this can vary. But the specific scenario mentioned is one that never would be mentioned by someone who actually owns an EV in that situation because it just isn't an issue.

Comment Re:It's surprising people still don't get it. (Score 5, Insightful) 282

Mandated EVs would require multiple chargers in their driveways.

No, it wouldn't. I say this as someone who has your exact scenario -- multiple EV vehicles in a driveway, often for people who merely drive in to to school/job. Because my vehicles are usually driven less than 20 miles a day, not including weekends, one charger works fine because topping off the charge on a car takes only and hour or two. More if I use the glorified-extension cord L1 trickle charger, but with minimal usage like your example cars can go a week or more without charging so swapping spots every other day or so to ensure the cord reaches is trivial.

Comment Re:Okay, but ... (Score 1) 282

You should read beyond headlines. EV sales did not increase at the same rate they did the year before, but they still INCREASED. That is, the rate of growth slowed but it was still growth.

The market is not saturated, with a few exceptions -- Tesla being the largest -- many EVs in the US are first generation and need to mature. And they also focused on large, high-margin vehicles like pickup trucks and SUVs. Once they actually address the rest of the market with small and mid-sized cars, adoption should accelerate again.

Comment Re:No loss in pay (Score 1) 390

If companies are forced to pay OT past 32 hours, they'll freeze pay at current levels and do staggered shifts.

Pay isn't set that way, it is set by supply and demand. Freezing pay only works if the workers have no other options, and the demographic trends of the Baby Boomers retiring in large numbers and a smaller generation following means more jobs than workers -- meaning worker choice. Forcing more overtime is one possible option, constrained by the same supply-demand. The bill Sanders is proposing mandates time-and-a-half past 8 hours and double-time past 12-hours a day. Short of a good old fashioned dose of Nixon Republicanism that won't happen. And considering the epic shitstorm that created for the economy (Hello Stagflation!) -- I wouldn't be surprised in MAGA embraced it wholeheartedly.

"On Aug. 15, 1971, in a nationally televised address, Nixon announced, "I am today ordering a freeze on all prices and wages throughout the United States."

After a 90-day freeze, increases would have to be approved by a "Pay Board" and a "Price Commission," with an eye toward eventually lifting controls -- conveniently, after the 1972 election."

It'll encourage companies to automate away even more positions wherever possible.

They're doing that already and there is little that is going to stop it. Again, see the demographic decline and need to fill jobs with workers that don't exist.

Comment Re:"Fast" is relative (Score 3, Informative) 103

For an individual, yes. For dealing with national policy, no. You need to sample "how people use the internet" and what the available speeds support versus what they could. Your cherry-picked example would be on the far left of the bell curve, being both suitable on low speed connection and as a sample of what people commonly do -- and only do -- on the internet. Your example of the downloader straining gigabit connections is an example from the far right of the curve. As national policy, we're more concerned with the big, fat middle.

Like it or not a lot of what is commonly called work, especially office work, can effectively be done remotely with suitable broadband speeds. Ensuring adequate broadband means those workers can relocate, and revitalize, small town and rural America.

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