Comment Re:Russia? (Score 1) 111
15% is very probable. It wasthe percentage of Ukrainians in the USSR
Yes, because that's what they did, throughout the Russian empire, the USSR, and after,
Maybe you forgot, but I told you that Korolev had Russian ethnicity in his ID documents. In the USSR every one had his ethnicity written down in his ID document (which you declared yourself when you got the passport). But you said "and after". In the post-USSR Russia, your ethnicity is not written anywhere. You do not have it in your passport anymore
Furthermore, to correct your analogy, the lab in this case would commonly also be in China or Russia, just owned by Americans.
Really? Correct analogy? Ukraine SSR had "laboratories" in Russia owned by Ukraine???
Lenin himself gave up Ukraine
He was forced to gave up Ukraine by Germany during the WWI.
In the late 1920s and 1930s, proudly declaring yourself Ukrainian in any way that might even slightly smell of nationalism would be a great way to become murdered by the state. Seriously, do you have no conception of the history of the area you're talking about?
Bullshit. You are making things up and outright lying.There were tens of million of people who identified as Ukrainian in the USSR. And in the census of 1926 in the USSR 31,194,976 people identified as Ukrainian. Nobody killed you for identifying as Ukrainian. Even Brezhnev (head of the USSR 1964-1982) had "Ukrainian" in his passport and he was born in 1906 same as Korolev. You just went to office and told the clerk your ethnicity and he wrote it down in passport. Nobody cared. It was a different thing if you were trying to promote the idea of independent Ukraine. But just to call yourself Ukrainian... It was normal and common, no one feared to do that.
And in the 1920s there was the process of so called "korenizatsiya" when on the contrary they were forcing people in Ukraine to teach Ukrainian and to use Ukrainian for official purposes even in the Russian speaking parts of Ukraine.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korenizatsiia
This policy was implemented even in areas with large Russian-speaking populations; for instance, all children in Ukraine were taught in the Ukrainian language in school.
It was in fact beneficiary to identify as Ukrainian if you wanted to reach a high position in Ukraine.
It is you who have no conception of the history of the area you're talking about
Later on they stopped with "korenizatsiya" but local languages still were taught in the schools, the heads of the SSRs were still had to be of the titular ethnicity of the respective SSRs and so on.
Bolsheviks were not such Russian nationalists as you trying to portray them. If they were they wouldn't have created all those "republics" for all those ethnicities. They wouldn't have renamed Russia to the USSR
some Ukrainian historians
Some Ukrainian historians say the Ukrainians existed already when Herodotus lived. Or it was the Ukrainians who dug up the Black Sea and some other ridiculous theories.
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