Thats my favorite game on Linux, it even works when I get shaped, it would be awesome if they update that with doom 3 engine. I'm in Australia and luckily theres a few servers here so the ping rates good and even found one with sensible people and not screaming 12 year olds. I must get a team speak working because every time I press T to type a message I end up doing the "ump tango" or "play catch the shiny bullet".

I'd mod this up if I coud, its exactly how me and my missus feels

Yeah I had a coach like that, but It was when I was 26, I was playing second grade Aussie rules for my country town, now 2/3 of the team game from the team across the road who had just folded and had been "wooden spooners" for like a decade, we had the spirit that we were having a social kick with our mates, sure we tried our hardest but we weren't serious, just for fun. Well to cut a long story short the new team I was playing for had inherited the wooden spooner position, we lost our game by 2 goals(12 points) to the team that was top of the ladder(and ended up winning the flag), in the change room the coach started saying we had played our best, the went on into a screaming tirade about our best wasn't good enough and winning is all that matters, I just stood up and walked to the showers and ignored him. He started having a go at me saying I'm not finished yet, my reaction was "Well I'm finished I only play to have fun with my mates, and secondly we aren't playing first grade and we aren't playing for sheep stations". He started saying shit like I was week and then a heap of other boys stood up and went to the showers and ignored him to. Pretty much from that point on no one had respect for him and some of us didn't show up for the rest of the season(and yhe ones who did ignored the dick of a coach and just looked after their teammates). Needless to say the club didn't renew his position the following season, our new coach was like us, seconds is for fun, and we made the finals that year, I understand the attitude of winning at all cost if its first grade or professional(some of our first grade players were payed) but when its just social or juniors the participation and friendship is whats important, winning is just a very welcome bonus. With my daughter starting nippers next year(under 7's) all I care is she has fun and tries her hardest, and god help any parent who has a go at her for sucking like I did

never played forza with anything but a controller(IMO its the only way, but the kinect adventures is great for family fun, stops the kids getting pudgy, and it makes a great game for stoners or drunk people socializing(never laughed so much in my life) just like the eyetoy on ps2, In my opinion it opens up a new genre of gaming for average people. Hardcore gamers still need a controller and/or keyboard and mouse. Maybe to expand it may need props like bats and racquet's to get the most out of sporting games, the missus likes to do Zumba so its perfect for that(cheaper then a proper class and an instructor). Besides I rather my 5 year old jump around like a twit then killing poor defenseless Russians with a machine gun. Gamepad for racing, fighting and hardcore sport sims like FIFA, keyboard/mouse for FPS and strategy motion sensing for chilled out casual family fun. p.s the kinect would be good used in conjuction with a proper joystick on a pc for flight sims, especially in this day of multiple monitors(especially tripple), the head tracking from forza would be excellent, move the HUD to where your looking or for targeting like real life fighter pilot.

ewwww, gross

what, my gf, my daughter and I have lots of fun playing kinect, shits all over wii, least we don't have a problem with controllers flying across the room