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Comment Re: They completely missed the point (Score 1) 171

I just got a car with these features. Steering is the easy part. ACC does the annoying gas pedal and brakes. ACC does let a person look at the console for a moment, as it takes care of braking. It's easy to glance at the console without leaving the lane, but basically impossible to avoid rear ending the vehicle in front if said vehicle stomps on the brakes just as you glance away. I think the auto-steering part is oversold for all vehicles, that's not the primary benefit. Auto-speed is.

Comment Re:wait (Score 1) 171

> As the report notes the driver is partly to blame, but so is Tesla for building a system that relies on driver engagement but which fails to enforce it in any meaningful way.

No prior cars ever stopped people from vaguely driving with their feet while eating cereal. I don't think car manufs are on the hook for guaranteeing/enforcing driver engagement. At a certain point, you expect the driver to be disciplined and responsible. This is not Tesla's responsibility. The driver drove into a barrier, and that's 100% on the driver.

Comment wait (Score 3, Insightful) 171

Isn't this the guy that kept complaining to Tesla's feed about the trouble spot around 101S / left-side exit to 85, and finally smacked into the barrier with no hands on the wheel? The bad part was the water barriers were missing because of a recent previous accident, so his accident was into the concrete, and it killed him. Lesson, don't take your hands off the wheel especially at known problematic points. I thought this was painted as 100% driver error already.

Comment Re: Not good. Not kosher. (Score 2) 344

This here is the answer. Tesla and dealer messed up by not catching the error pre-sale. The buyer has a case.

But, it is in Telsa's and the dealer's power to downscale the car's features and adjust price appropriately. People seem to miss this point.

What they can't do (or shouldn't be allowed to do legally) is show you the car, sell you the car, and then say "whoops" and remove things you paid for (or post-contract signing). After that, it's YOUR car. And they are robbing your car of stuff post-sale.

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