Comment Re:Sure... (Score 1) 293
don't blame the chinese for that one. it was the democratic party that did that, they'll use whatever they can get their hands on as a cudgel.
don't blame the chinese for that one. it was the democratic party that did that, they'll use whatever they can get their hands on as a cudgel.
the logical conclusion is that the origin of the virus is INCREDIBLY pertinent to our response. you can't prevent something unless you know where it came from.
yes there's certain types of animal human transactions that increase the likelihood of cross-species infection. We can limit those regardless with relatively low effort and a little political will. reduce, not eliminate.
What if this actually came about because of shite lab safety? And the CCP won't acknowledge that, and won't fix it because it would call for eliminating corruption up and down their political structure?
our response should be, never again deal with the CCP as a good actor in any engagement, even one so universally beneficial as pandemic prevention, as a world. the CCP acts in bad faith in all interactions.
false. the kind of bats that these coronaviruses live in are more in the warmer climates toward the south apparently.
https://www.politico.com/news/...
i'd imagine most of the time you'd prioritize human talent for designating a site for these kinds of things. ease of travel etc. field work and samples are important, but you don't need everybody to go gather their own shit.
taiwan has 7 fatalities from covid because they didn't believe a fucking word out of the CCP or the WHO.
taiwan first heard about 'pneumonia-like illness' december 31st.
3 weeks later WHO announced it suspected human-to-human transmission
2 days after that china locked down a city of 11 million people.
can you point me at the farm claim? wuhan really doesn't have bats apparently, one of the top bat researchers expected this kind of thing to break out where the bats actually live, toward the southwest, not where wuhan is regionally. how did it get from bats to humans via the farm scenario?
no, at the very very very very very fucking least, you make sure that China earns its lab research classifications. next time it'll be a goddamn face-melting virus.
we might look into compensation, but at the very very bare minimum, china needs to be able to prove that it's lab safety is at a higher standard going forward.
it's not good ole' capitalism's fault in my mind. it's more likely to be 'shitty chinese biohazard safety' the viral study facility in wuhan had a write-up in 2018 or 19 that cited unsafe exposure of researchers to bat blood and bat urine... and i'm pretty sure they were studying SARS at that facility. they were "a world-leading research center on bat coronaviruses" -politico.
researchers at that institute had boasted about potentially finding the cave where SARS originated, and found 3 variants including one with a spike protein for the ACE2 receptor.
you want to go on an believe it came from a farm? go ahead i suppose. The truth is much more mundane. China likes to cut corners.
racist for calling it the wuflu. china has clearly said it did not come from china, so it must have come from the USA.
that's also what our CDC/fauci and the WHO were saying for that entire period. I knew they were lying through their teeth, anybody who cared to research a little knew they were lying through their teeth. everybody knew they were trying to save up n95s for medical staff and not crash the economy.
don't listen to the government, they don't have your safety in mind, they should have "EVERYBODY's" safety in mind, but that's physical and economic, and the weighting isn't always toward physical.
I can make the very real argument that there should not have been any government mandated shutdowns at all. government should have just put all resources into facemask production/distribution etc. and maybe we wouldn't have so many teenagers killing themselves. wear a mask, do what you will, but wear a mask etc. your safety is your own responsibility.
i think they'd prefer people think that it was rural bumpkins that were handling exotic meats that caused the death of several million people world-wide and shut down the global economy, than that it was their shoddy safety measures and perhaps improper research into the SARS virus at their biohazard level 4 lab in wuhan.
you know, the lab with the rating that means it is rated to handle things like ebola.
the same lab that a year prior had internal reports that showed concerns of the handling of specifically their bats, one instance of bat blood dripping on a researcher, another of bat urine dripping on a researcher?
The one thing everybody should have learned by now, don't fucking trust a thing china says, and as an extension, don't trust a fucking thing the WHO says.
the WHO has blood on its hands. You can't expect china not to lie... it's the CCP.
Is electing to remove someone’s breathing or feeding tube when they can no longer function without mechanical assistance murder?
um... if they have no say in the matter... i would suggest most people would say yes.
Should miscarriages entail murder investigations?
they do and charges have been filed against men that slip their mistresses abortion pills or induce by other means miscarriages.
homicide/attempted homicide. because the only other way to think about it is just a generic assault and vandalism of property.
Should mothers of still born children be charged with murder?
no unless it can be causally linked to the actions of an outside force.
Outside of becoming paralyzed, rearing a child is by far the single most disruptive event in a person’s life.
... if only there were some way to prevent pregnancy from happening in the first place... you wouldn't have such a valid point... if there were even just one way to prevent unwanted pregnancy outside of abortion... oh well, i must concede this point to your superior logic.
yes, we can also look at other demographic statistics too. race, sex and age and probably glean some insights there too. hrm, you know there's a strong correlation between poverty and crime... maybe we don't even have to suffer the crimes being committed in the first place. Maybe that german fellow's tactics weren't necessarily wrong, just his targets. He didn't have our science or wisdom.
it speaks to a larger issue of why we as a society think that any person or persons deserves human rights? fundamentally i can't get away from the idea that 'made in his image' undergirds our entire argument for 'universal human rights' in the first place.
every civil liberty you can speak of foundationally sits on the idea that an individual human being has intrinsic value beyond his or her utility to society and thus deserve dignity regardless of their ability. absent that foundational belief, i cannot formulate a good reason why we should care about genocide on a moral level other than its utility to society in this moment.
but that also leads to the idea that if that is truly the case and we truly believe that human life has intrinsic value... then when does it start and are those lives less deserving of our collective protection?
i'd say on the jerusalem thing... what we got out of it is that the world didn't end. the arab world didn't explode into violence. it was recognition of the reality on the ground, and the reality was that nobody fucking cared if the US recognized jerusalem or not, not our allies, and barely a peep out of our enemies. the palestinians fumed a bit, but the sky didn't come crashing down.
think there was a survey recently, and the majority of the middle east would rather cozy up to israel than to iran. that... is something significant.
the palestinians have been holding out for the whole pie this entire time, recognizing jerusalem should be enough to shock them out of that illusion and perhaps make them realize that if they don't come to the table for something, they might end up with nothing.
they've got a lot of sympathetic countries... that will do nothing for them when push comes to shove. as nobody did anything for the ukraine. the UN is a joke.
for some of us... it is more than a law, but a guiding principle. and i don't know that you can enforce the guiding principle without breaking it at the same time.
i want to live in a world where people can say whatever the fuck they actually think, without risking their livelihood. without exception. but having the government enforce it would be granting the government more power than i'm comfortable granting it.
it really just means, that i'm waiting for everybody to grow up a little, and let people make the mistakes that are necessary for growth.
yes, the first amendment is about government intervention. but that's literally as much as it could cover without trodding on our rights. be careful of growing that lion you're riding too big.
holy shit... you're a highlander? what's it like to live for hundreds of years?
The Tao is like a glob pattern: used but never used up. It is like the extern void: filled with infinite possibilities.
