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Comment Re:Shooting finger guns at each other is meaningle (Score 1) 706

Sure there is.
If a kid that at one time made a gun from a pop tart kills someone the administrator that didn't punish him will be blamed for missing the warning signs.
If he suspends or puts a normal kid in jail for playing nothing bad will happen to the administrator.
Punishment for under reaction no punishment for overreacting means that it is only logical to overreact.

Comment Re:Really? (Score 1) 706

You are not getting me. I am telling how things are. Did not read this? "Again it is the safe thing for the school administration to do. It is not the right thing, good thing, or effective thing"
It is the safe thing to keep from getting his butt handed to him. Until people make it not the safe thing to do like getting his butt fired for putting a 15 year old in jail for breaking no law I see then it will keep happening.

Comment Re:Guns are bad (Score 1) 706

Nope not an administrator or teacher I have nothing to do with the school system at all. Parents are responsible for their kids. And since school administrators are getting kids arrest for playing video games and for "shooting" fellow students with a gun made out of a pop tart I would say your statement about them nodding and doing nothing is far from 100% factual.

Comment Re:Guns are bad (Score 1) 706

I do not condone any action. You are saying it is caused by bullying which is a bad thing. I am saying that putting the blame on harassment for mass murder is just as dumb as blaming any other external cause. It is scapegoating.
The more direct blame is on the parents. Why did they not know their own child's mental state and the acquiring of weapons. Of course they will not blame the parents because they lost their child.
Why not blame the school as whole for allowing the bullying. Well that does happen but the results are busting kids for shooting people with pop tart guns. Zero-thought policies.
"If you abuse someone long enough and trap them sufficiently in their situation, they will crack up every time."
And that is the parents failing to provide the love, support, and safe environment for their child. Their home and family should be the escape for them. If a child is suffering that much it is the parents that need to go and move them to a new school or make sure they get the help developing the coping skills they need.
Bullies are terrible it should not be allowed but bullies are also children and they show a failure on their parents side of the equation to not teach compassion and discipline to their children.
In the end it all comes down to the parents or lack of them.

Comment Re:Really? (Score 1) 706

How do you even know the kid is "troubled". Okay all teens are troubled to some extent or another that is what being a teenager is all about.
How is this any different than cops and robbers or the backstab game.
Again it is the safe thing for the school administration to do. It is not the right thing, good thing, or effective thing but if this kid ever did snap and kill himself or kill someone else and it came out that a parent reported this and the school administration did nothing they would be hung out to dry by the press, media, parents, and probably the courts. Unil parents start being parents and taking some responsibility and people learn that 20 20 hindsight is nothing but a witch hunt to lay blame then nothing will change.
Just watch for this phrase, "all the warning signs where there".

Comment Re:"We have to take all threats seriously" (Score 1) 706

It looks more and more like the war on boys.
http://ideas.time.com/2013/08/19/school-has-become-too-hostile-to-boys/

I want them to start suspending girls for playing with dolls and playing house. Clearly this will lead to teenage pregnancy. 100% of the girls that pregnant under the age of 18 have played with dolls or knew someone that did!

Comment Re:Guns are bad (Score 1) 706

"And I'd say that 99% of the school shootings are due to people being harassed"
100% of school shootings are due to a nutcase with a gun. Sorry but no matter how bullied you are or what names you are called that does not give you the right to shoot up a school. Lots of people including most of the people that probably post on slashdot where bullied at one time or another and did not shoot up a school.

Comment Re:Really? (Score 4, Insightful) 706

Well can you blame them. What is the first thing that happens when kid does something wrong.
"WHY DIDN'T ANYONE SEE THESE CLEAR WARNING SIGNS!" This kid played first person shooters, read gun magazines, and didn't get along with the popular kids! Just like millions of other people....

Just like in the old days they used to say, "no one ever got fired for buying IBM". No school administrator ever got in trouble for putting a kid in jail as a potential danger. Man I am glad they didn't have first person shooters when I was in school. I know for a fact that at least one of my friends if not myself would have made a map of the school. Of course that person and everyone that played that map would go to jail for planning a terrorist attack.

And the parents will not stop it because it is always better to throw another persons kid in jail to protect your own.

Comment Re:Not a solution. (Score 2) 216

That is a myth. The IRBMs in Turkey did not increase the threat to the USSR in any significant way. It is just a way that folks like the shift blame. The US already had Atlas, Titan, Titan II, and Polaris in service with Minuteman entering service. At the time and all could strike the USSR while USSR had no effective means of striking the US as the BIson lacked the range and performance and the R-7 took days to prepare for launch. The IRBMs in Turkey where going to be retired because they where not cost effective or a good weapons system. Same thing with the Thor systems in the UK which were also retired at the same time as the Jupiters even though they were not part of the deal. Removing the Jupiter systems was a bone thrown to the USSR and nothing more.

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