You seem to think that the only way to prove income tax is fair is by looking at a published list showing tax percentages paid by each income group.
No, but I think it is one way of doing so. You're claiming unfair, so you have the onus of producing some numbers to show that. Any number to show that. You have failed to provide any citation to support your claims. Why can't you do that?
If you know that the income is manipulated (legally) then how is this a fair comparison?
Because even with the manipulation, the top 1% of the people pay significantly more in taxes than they have in income. If they were able to game the system so well, they'd be paying much less in income taxes than they are. In case you missed it, Schedule A (deductions) comes after the calculation of AGI, so a skillful manipulator of itemized deductions would have a high AGI and a low tax. That doesn't happen.
In reality, real pre-tax income vs. taxes paid would show you how fair the system is.
In your opinion. Since the money that is deducted is no longer income, I'd say it would be unfair to use that as a comparison. If you made $20,000 in total income and donated $10,000 to charity, would it be fair to tax you on the entire $20,000? Of course not. But you say it would be. Now add in that you paid $2000 in mortgage interest, and had unreimbursed business expenses of another $1000. The amount you'd be taxed on is now just $7000. You want it to be the full $20,000 to be fair, right? You want to be fair, right?
Flat tax, the real solution to the problem
Flat tax as proposed is not a solution to anything but the whining of the class haters. I've calculated what I would owe under current laws and the "fair" flat tax and I'd owe double. Now, you may think I'm one of the 1%, but I'm far from it. Your "fair" flat tax would kill the middle class. Is that your target? You hate them, too?
You continue to show that one tax chart because it's the only way you can claim to be correct
Yes, showing the facts is a good way of showing oneself to be correct in stating the facts. Where are your numbers? Where is YOUR source? You have nothing to back you up but bluster and insult. And, by the way, I've shown two sources of different information, with multiple charts per source. You haven't bothered to look, have you? You don't know what they show.
If it was a fair system, don't you think we would be staying steady on the wealth disparity area?
Income tax was never intended to solve an alleged "wealth disparity" problem. Those who hate the rich want it to be used that way, but that's not what it is supposed to be used for.
And no, I'm not talking about the 300K/yr money, but multiples of millions per year.
And the only numbers that have been presented here show that those people pay far more in percentage of tax than they make in income and you have nothing to show otherwise. You have nothing to show your 8-10% claim, and you have nothing to show your 30-40% claim for the rest of us. You've got some alleged failure to claim income on the part of the awful rich people, but nothing to prove it.
And here, I'll point this out to you -- poor people have just as much to gain from underreporting their income as rich people do. In fact, more. If they can get below certain AGI levels, they can get tax credits. Free money. The rich just pay a bit less in tax. But I'm not trying to claim how many people do this because I have no numbers to back this up. You, OTOH, keep spouting unsupported claims without any source at all.
I guess you'll just have to remain unhappy that other people make more money than you do.