Oh really? Is this some form of obligation to play the 'game'? Sorry bub, if you want to elect crooks into office, you'll have to do it without me.

Why?

Just a little thing called 'curiosity'. It's not necessarily about 'not liking' the OS. Some of us like to experiment. Why would you be so against that?

I said you were saying they were no big deal, which you explicitly did.

Where?

Again, you seem to assume that I approve of Obama because I don't see him as worse than all his predecessors. You couldn't be more wrong.

Sorry, how is that HIS trick?

I didn't say it was his trick. It's a tired old game of "If you're not against x, then you are for y". A minor variation of a third party vote being a wasted one. I quit playing that half a lifetime ago.

And I am not doubting Obama's crimes (though you all are listing the comparatively minor ones. A lot more innocents are being killed by his drones, and he's still a gun runner, but not much is being said about that...). I'm only saying that you and he are singling him out as something different from the others, and that you needn't bother. I'm not fooled by any of it. If crime was the issue, you all would have stood up a full generation ago, but it's not. It's pure politics you're playing and why none of you (including democrats and Obama worshipers) can be taken seriously.

Not at all. This is merely another challenge to overcome.

That's your reality, not mine.

That's bullshit. Only the people that voted for Romney voted for Romney. People who voted for Ron Paul voted for Ron Paul. Don't try to lay the guilt trip on those who didn't vote for your favorite candidate.

Legality? Why should we care about that anymore? The law is nothing but a massive witch hunt, a dysfunctional game of roulette. Those with the most money win. Why should anybody show any respect for that?

You win the internet

...because we didn't muster a witch hunt that cashiered Bush over the Twin Towers/Pentagon (Lord rest LCDR Robert Elseth), that somehow immunizes BHO from questioning over Benghazi.

That trick is getting old and stale..

Yeah, they lied. So what? That's what politicians do to keep getting reelected, and are thus rewarded. They're only doing what is expected of them, and they profit handsomely for it. Mr. Smith here, and maybe you too, seems to insist that Obama and his party affiliation is different when he and they are not.

You what's neat about this? That nobody is talking about the real intrigue of the weapons running scheme to Syria that these people were/are involved in, or the ongoing war we are fomenting in the Congo, where Susan Rice has bloodied her hands. If you really want to hang the prez, nothing would beat an Iran/Contra type hearing. Unfortunately it would catch a few too many good ol' boys in that net, so we now present the...Fiscal Cliff! for your distraction

If Bush had done any of this -- failed to provide sufficient security, lied about the attack, lied with motive to cover up the failure...

He had done most of those things (I'd have to check to see who he may have had arrested).. only then the attack was on American soil, and the TV people hardly questioned him at all about it. They believed virtually every lie he told, and those who didn't were quickly tagged as nutcase 'conspiracy theorists' or 'terrorist sympathizers' by those very same TV people. The entire business was, and still is gung-ho for war. Actually Obama is getting pretty much the same treatment as Reagan, vilified by some and sanctified by others. Where the news in that?

Whether it's Bush, Obama, or whoever, this is all just another day in the life, and all you have yet to show that anything has changed.

That you also think I'm defending any of them only shows you're not paying attention nor reading what I'm writing. I never did, nor ever will vote for them. In fact, from the very beginning, I always recommended that you people seek out a better alternative. You cough up Romney, and then expect me not to laugh out loud? Please... Well, just so you know, despite that, I did not vote for Obama. Between those two, it just doesn't matter.

Question: Who y'all gonna run against Hillary in the next one?

You need to give the kid chewable tablets!

And our politicians are the crazy homeless person that will not hesitate to push us off if they can score a few votes. Eh, whatever, just move inland if you're worried about hurricanes. Or, you know, build a more robust, resistant infrastructure.

So... How's the weather?