Comment majors, jobs, income, good luck (Score 1) 314
I suspect the posters who are doing so well in IT and Computer Science are out of touch with a lot of graduates in STEM (science, technology, engineering & math) majors including those who are not.
I worked my way through much of college and law school, where my original job, set up by a clueless rich fellow, fell through and I ended up working practically full time and walking back and forth to work another 1.5 hours per day. I got the Tsetse Fly Award in the April Fool issue of the paper for logging the most sleep in 8:00 A.M. class and every once in awhile crashed out and slept through a day of classes. I think that was a major reason I missed Law Review and only graduated in the top third of my selective class at a top school, which cut off a lot of opportunities and better paying jobs. You can’t do it today without some special connections and skills.
I live across from a second-tier state university and know people with B.S., M/S. and everything but the defense of their dissertations for Ph.D. in computers and other STEM fields, more than one of whom have ended up teaching English in China, and others unemployed in or near their fields and literally flipping burgers.
Some were making six-figure incomes until their jobs got off-shored at what would be below minimum wage here and have had to travel across the country to low-pay part-time jobs. I put a lot of them through bankruptcy after they lost their jobs and homes, etc.
How do we propose to collect enough taxes to dig out of the national debt pit while driving down the earning capacity, and tax payments, of what used to be much of our middle class? How do you expect these people to make enough to pay off their non-dischargeable student loans and other massive debt? They can’t. Student loans are just one of the next bubbles to burst.
Another small problem: Only a very, very small percentage of even the conscientious American students with high intelligence have the specific native intelligence and talent to succeed in STEM and computer fields even when they pay well. Fewer male than female high school grads are going to college because the return just isn’t there.
I’m older than most of you and remember when this country went on its big move to push everybody into engineering. I tried, and only MIT was smart enough to turn me down. It sort of worked for awhile. Then we started seeing pages and pages of ads for engineers that said “no aerospace experience need apply.” Age. Etc. discrimination laws are impossible to enforce most of the time and we’re scrapping huge chunks of intelligent younger, much less older, college grads regardless of major. Why do you think almost half of American adults are on some kind of welfare payments, a situation we cannot possibly sustain financially and which destroys everything this country used to stand for.