Not true - check this picture of the box of the original PS3 60 GB - no mention of the OtherOS.

And providing help and instructions do not constitute advertising for a feature.

So no, there was NO advertising for the OtherOS feature. As "rossz" said above, please take up the challenge of finding an ad that mentions OtherOS. Otherwise please stop propagating untruths.

Nope, not "facts" - facts. The original GeoHot hack was released in Jan 2010, and required the OtherOS function of the machine in order to work. That is why SCEA over-reacted and decided to take away OtherOS. If I was SCEA, and my bread and butter depended upon games being sold, and there was a danger that this hack would affect my bread-and-butter, then I might have done the same as well.

See this. The original Sony 60 GB model did NOT list OtherOS as a feature.

Also, see this. There was no mention of OtherOS in the "It only does everything" ad.

Now please stop lying.

The XCP rootkit incident did not affect me - however, I was rational enough to realize that the incident had been perpetrated by BMG Crescendo just before it was acquired by Sony Music or during the acquisition (look up the timeline). And I like the quality of the electronics they make. I also realize that Sony had many different arms which seemed to not even work well together - Sony Music was not governed by the people who make TVs, Blu-ray Players or the PS3. It's only recently that their different divisions seem to have started working towards common goals.

As for the OtherOS debacle, while I don't really like them taking away a feature (that they did NOT advertize, no matter how much haters like to claim that they did), I can understand the panicked mindset that led them to that rash decision. An idiot called Geohot had just decided to publicize and teach others how to use the OtherOS capability to hack into the PS3 architecture.

Moreover, Sony's response to the hacks has been much better than ANY other corporation out there - including CitiCorp, Microsoft, etc. They even offered a one-year free identity theft protection. The only reason you are harping on about the hack is because it was Sony.

You are thinking of Microsoft and the NextBox. Sony have clearly said they are NOT going to require always-on internet connection for games. So making up lies to support your claim now?

I'm willing to bet that many of the Sony-haters are XBox fans - who conveniently forget that Microsoft also screwed them over by releasing faulty consoles. Mayhaps you are one of them? Viva la Kinect, right?

Wow, you really have a bee up your bonnet - calling people brain-dead, stupid, idiots and dumb-ass just because they happen to prefer buying well-made products.

Since you've now insulted me, sworn at me, and called me names multiple times, let me respond in kind: you are a grudge-nursing, bilious, vindictive, jerk.

And...cue the Sony-haters: no matter that Sony has been mostly on the right track these last few years. Keep nursing your grudge, haters, while rational people - who are able to recognize that times change, people change, and even corporations can change (esp because they have been brought down to kneeling like Sony has been in recent times) - will take advantage of Sony's offerings.

Like here, where he is criticizing the potential of sponsored Achievements? Oh wait, he was not supporting MS there...but feel free to keep on ranting.

I like the PS3 - it's my console of choice - although I do have a 360 Slim, Wii, PS Vita, 3DS & PSP as well. However, I have to say - RogueyWon was being kind when he implied that the PS3 and 360 versions are running neck-to-neck in some cross-platform game; in some of those games, the 360 version is actually better. By far.

On the flip side, I do think that Richard Leadbetter of Digital Foundry (over at Eurogamer) has demonstrated some fealty to the XBox brand in the past - by selective importance being given to attributes - like framerate, tearing, anti-aliasing, lighting, shadows, etc - depending upon which console version performs better at which attribute - with the desired end-result being to give the impression that overall the 360 version is better. He has also been pretty biased in the past as he has often implied that "poor 360 versions are the developer's fault" (e.g. FFXIII face-off), but "poor PS3 versions are the console architecture's fault" (almost all face-offs where the PS3 version is significantly worse than the 360 version).

However, I agree with you on one point - and one point only - that so far I haven't seen anything on the 360, cross-platform or exclusive, that equals or looks better than some of the visually top-end PS3 exclusives. In my opinion.

And that rootkit was in 2006, by a company Sony had just acquired.

A lot of water has since passed under the bridge - both bad and good, but if you want to keep on harping about that as justification, be my guest. Just recognize that other, rational people, understand that things change, the Sony of today is different from the Sony of yesteryear, whether it be by design or because of circumstances.

The fact, however, stands that this rootkit in 2006 has nothing to do with the PSN hacking in 2011. There is no logical way that a sane, reasonable, rational human being can conflate the two.

Oh sorry, you are not a sane, reasonable, rational human being.

Carry on ranting

Sony had a similar situation.

They got hacked. They got law enforcement involved. They figured out who was likely-impacted. They pulled the infected equipment. They let the world know.

In just 7-9 days.

And they still got a lot of flak for it.

This incident with B&N happened on September 14. This was revealed 2 days ago. So...a total of 38 or 39 days.

I can't speak for you specifically, but I find it ironic that a lot of people who side with B&N here will have prayed for Sony to have torn a new rear-end then.

Bunch of hypocrites.

In that case I'm sure you'll forgive me if I say I think you are either mistaken big-time, misread something, or just plain pulled that claim out of your backside.

In your eyes maybe.

Home does have a lot to offer though, for the folks who are interested in that kind of thing.

Can you point to any news article that quoted any Sony exec promising Home to be a Second Life killer?

Nope - it really is 12 GB - a 12 GB flash drive.

They tried - it's just that it didn't become as popular as they had hoped.
So...not through lack of trying.
Nice little straw you clutched there.

What does the iMac, a Desktop Computer, released in 1998 (iMac in 1998) have to do with Pocket PC Phones released in 2004? IMHO you are wrong, it is prior art.

And who cares whether the devices never took off? The fact remains that they existed well BEFORE the iPhone.

These may not look completely like an iPhone, but they were rectangular, with some curved edges (especially if you consider the fact that antenna now usually lies within the phone, not outside as used to happen then because of technology limitations for smartphones), which Apple is claiming a design patent on.

Here you are HP iPAQ 6315 Pocket PC Phone: http://pocketnow.com/review/hp-ipaq-h6315-pocket-pc-phone-edition
99% touchscreen - with both stylus and fingers.
Rectangular with very slightly curved edges, with external antenna (as around that time, they hadn't figured out a way to incorporate the big-ass antenna into the phone, although this was somewhat rectified by the time HP iPAQ rz1715 came out).
I owned it - from sometime 2004 to sometime in 2005.
Based on this, I would say there's prior art for two things - touchscreen phones with rectangular shape with slightly rounded corners, and the "i" in front of a device name.

Actually, as far as I remember, 360 supports upto 5.1 in surround sound, and so far has only used Dolby Digital.
The PS3 supports upto 7.1 audio and Dolby Digital, DTS, has Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master audio support, and 7.1 PCM.

Story - Microsoft Wins US Import Ban On Motorola's Android Devices - Posted by Soulskill on Friday May 18, @05:38PM .
First comment praising Microsoft - a properly worded, properly paragraphed, properly punctuated, comment, with a link with description - all of this taking up a 100 words not including punctuation - Posted by kdps (2642743) on Friday May 18, @05:38PM .