if you are going to be anti-intellectual and purposefully know nothing, there's not a possibility to have a discussion with you

1. the usa, compared to its economic peers, guts healthcare, especially mental healthcare

2. the usa, compared to its economic peers, hordes guns

3. here we have a mentally ill individual, not getting help, and reaching for a gun to solve his perceived sleights

this is absolutely cause and effect, and uniquely an american phenomenon

actually, it's pretty much the quintessential american tragedy

we gut mental healthcare safety nets, and healthcare in general we don't care about

we flood society with guns

and here we have a deranged person with a gun. it's called cause and effect. of course lanza can happen anywhere in the world, but because of american society, adam lanza becomes more likely here

adam lanza as a phenomenon says a lot of about the USA's culture and priorities in regards to healthcare and guns, and less about humanity in general

and we as americans can do something about it, by emphasizing healthcare as the solution to our problems, and deemphasizing guns as the solution to our problems, and we can make adam lanzas less likely to happen

again, like i said, because it's hard to draw the line doesn't mean we don't draw the line. because some situations it is hard to tell, doesn't mean we don't draw the line in plenty of other situations where it is easy to tell

you want to take a hypothetical situation where there is a large gray area, and say therefore we can't ever draw the line. i am saying that there are still plenty of scenarios where you can easily draw the line. and we also draw the line in the difficult ones if we have to

you need to come to grips with the fact that the existence of gray areas does not stop us from thinking and acting in this world. life can get messy at times. your entire post speaks of this concept guiding you to inaction and hesitancy. your post speaks of your own mentality, not the reality of human thought and action. we get it mostly right most of the time. because we can make mistakes in this world is no reason not to act, and never will be. maybe for you, not for the rest of us

because there is a gray area between A&B doesn't mean we should ignore the daylight between A&C that any fool can see

we can say the slippery slope doesn't work, even with subjective judgments. because we can't judge perfectly, doesn't mean we should stop judging. and because a gray area between A and B exists, doesn't mean there is clear daylight between A and C that any fool can see

because we can't judge 100% accurately, we can never judge at all?

you are an idiot. i mean that as sincerely as possible

right

and we can't legalize gay marriage because then we have to legalize pedophilia and necrophilia

and we can't legalize marijuana because then we have to legalize meth and crack

the slippery slope is a form of fear based logical fallacy

i can tell the difference between homosexuality and necrophilia. i can tell the difference between marijuana and meth. and i can tell the difference between political speech and hate speech

the slippery slope is an idea that only works in a world where nobody can think and identify different topics. therefore, the slippery slope never works as a persuasive argument

everything has its limits. if you use your speech to insult the basic human dignity of other speakers, to attack the integrity of another speaker, is this not an attack on free speech?

agreed. and your fellow citizens will do what your government cannot

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriot_Guard_Riders

yes, and neither is revving your motorcycle engines and holding flags in front of such picketers

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriot_Guard_Riders

freedom of speech is not freedom from consequences. if you traffic in hate, you reap what you sow

and freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from consequences

if you traffic in hate, you reap what you sow

they use the analysis to identify a small range of who to watch to find certain confirmation they have the right guy

law enforcement tools are not limited only to 100% certain ones. the fuzzy ones are used to narrow down a list of targets, where law enforcement's limited manpower can be better spent to find certain confirmation

It will be good enough to find someone with similar writing (i.e. also a subversive) and charge them instead of the original perpetrator. And good luck proving that you didn't write that

if you live in a country with good law enforcement, this is hollywood fantasy and/ or paranoid schizophrenia, not reality. you want to actually catch the actual perp because you actually want to prevent crimes

actually hollywood promotes the fantasy mythology of dirty harry: the boy scout fantasy of the perfectly omnipotent, omnipresent good guy who saves the day with a gun

of course, in reality, if you carry a gun, you're already dead before you know it, or you are reaching for your gun while you get shot, or you have trouble picking out the shooter in the confusion, or you cant isolate the target from innocent victims when you do locate the shooter, or you shoot the wrong person, etc., etc.

source: gabby giffords was surrounded by good guys with guns. read their transcripts of the shooting. in the confusion, all of them were completely helpless to do anything

reality is not a hollywood movie. guns don't protect you from what you think they protect you from. they are merely the source of the carnage you claim to fight. the madman used a gun his mother purchased with the exact same thinking you have in mind

keep talking friend

because tighter gun regulations are coming

looser and looser regulations have led to an increasing tempo of insanity

it's time to join the civilized world and get rid of killing machines we don't need in civil life