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Comment Re:Who will care? (Score 1) 547

Yes, absolutely, I said I was OK with that. But remind me where? I don't remember.

People like you frothing at the mouth and putting words in other peoples' mouths are unlikely to convince anybody of anything, same as those who you notice are frothing at the mouth on the other side.

Comment Re:Who will care? (Score 3, Interesting) 547

You have appeared to completely miss my point. I was responding to the facile reasoning behind "facebook already does this, so who cares if your ISP does it as well."

Whether Facebook, with 2.8 billion users, should be somehow regulated is a different question than whether the ISP should be able to listen in on my internet traffic.

They don't (didn't?) let the phone company listen in; why is the ISP different?

Comment Re:Who will care? (Score 3, Interesting) 547

The metadata is absolutely valuable. I wasn't making a comment about how you were safe if you were using https, but rather about how a lot of people come out of the woodwork telling you how terrible it would be if everybody used https.

The cynic in me says they work for the NSA or ISPs when they do that. (Sure, https can't be cached, requires more CPU, etc. but the technical problems seem more and more like the 640K of RAM issue.)

Comment Re:Who will care? (Score 5, Insightful) 547

Yes, Facebook already sees your other Webtraffic, because it has the ad networks bugged to track you. Google does. All of them do.

You can throw up speedbumps to what they can see, and limit the sharing quite a bit. But you can't do that with your ISP, and in a lot of places you have very little choice.

Or did you think that the price on Amazon is what everyone sees?

Yeah, actually, I do. Because they tried price discrimination once, and it blew up on them badly. Because people share information as well. Now, if you have evidence they are managing to do this more subtly now, I'd certainly be interested in seeing it.

If you don't want the government tracking you, go offgrid. Though I hear that is illegal in some places.

I see this all-or-nothing bullshit all the time. Is this some sort of trollish astroturf campaign? It certainly doesn't mirror real life.

Comment Re:Who will care? (Score 4, Insightful) 547

How can facebook and other web sites see all my web traffic?

Oh, that's right, they can't. Especially as I never use facebook, and don't allow their javascript to execute.

How can my ISP see all my web traffic? Pretty easily, if it's not encrypted, which is one reason why google is pushing https everywhere, and there's a lot of astroturfing here and elsewhere about why this is a bad thing.

Comment Re:Subtraction... (Score 1, Funny) 133

Yeah, you're butt-hurt because you didn't do the word problem right originally, but that's no reason to keep spouting nonsense.

Keeping the same number of significant digits in the lower and higher efficiencies, a 3 percent increase from 25.6 would round to 26.4, and a 2 percent increase from 25.6 would round to 26.1.

This means that to describe a percentage increase that properly rounds to 26.3, you need one more digit, and once you decide to add the extra digit, you want to make it as accurate as possible. The 2.7 percent given in the article rounds to 26.3, as accurately as possible.

Comment Re:Are our lawyers really this clueless? (Score 1) 58

WTF are you talking about, Willis? Open source licenses are only effective because of copyright (and patent, in some cases).

If you tell someone that there's no warranty, that's a disclaimer. No license or contract required, and the disclaimer may or may not protect you, but that's another issue.

If you tell someone "you can only do 'x' with this" then you have to have a right to create that restriction. If we're discussing tangible property, the right is usually pretty obvious, e.g. you own the property. If we're discussing intangible property, then there are very few valid rights that allow imposition of restrictions, such as copyright or trade secret. In the case of true open source, trade secrets are pretty much non-starters, so that basically leaves copyright.

Without a valid right to impose a restriction, the restriction is void and unenforceable.

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