Comment Can't do full autonomy WITHOUT LIDAR (Score 1) 185
"He’s just pissed that he went the wrong way (LIDAR), and that Tesla is running circles around them."
Cameras rely on passive (i.e. reflected) light, and thus are inherently fooled by reflections, poor lighting conditions, and other conditions. LIDAR generates its own light source which is not without its own issues, but is absolutely required for full (i.e. 100% no intervention required) autonomy. Waymo knows this; Musk is in denial about it.