maxx_entropy writes: I have a cottage in Northern Michigan in an Internet "dead zone." Phone service in the area is provided by SBC/AT&T off an RT about 5000' from the cottage. Said RT is not equipped for DSL nor "will it ever be" according to some of the service techs I have stopped along the road. Charter Cable has not wired the particular area (but can under a their franchise agreement) — their physical plant ends about 500 yards from the cottage area. Satellite is of course available, but the performance leaves much to be desired. I found a friendly person at a local store (about 5000' away) who would be willing to backhaul cable modem service to me if I can find a suitable transmission method. Wireless is out of the question due to extensive foliage and geography. So I thought maybe a leased copper pair from the store to the cottage with a pair of SDSL modems pushing the bits. Boy was I surprised at the insane pricing quoted to me from AT&T — for a "VG-32" dry pair circuit (nothing on it, no battery, just DC continuity) , cross-connected at the RT for a total distance of maybe 6000' — get this — $175/month plus $700 installation. I asked about their tariffed "UNE-L" at $10.75/mo — answer — "only available to CLECs." Here's an official response from an AT&T manager: "I went back to look at the options for a non digital point to point services. A VG service is direct analog service channel which provides voice transmission capability between two points. There are a few option of the VG, basic analog, exchange tariff, voice grade services of which the VG32 is the least expensive. The product offering is a month to month service, so that works well with your business model of a possible short term solution. The RT location is irrelevant in the design or pricing of these copper channels. The rates that you were quoted are accurate assuming that you do not want the Data Conditioning on the line which provides data transmission characteristics; that capability adds an addition $600 to the installation. The VG 32 is not designed to be used for data transmission off of a DSLAM, so the probability of the service working to a desirable level without the data conditioning is doubtful." This seems to be utter BS as all DSL installs these days are done without "data conditioning." Good grief, imagine the costs were proper "data conditioning" be performed your standard consumer DSL service? AT&Ts solution was $100/mo 144kbps IDSL service or $700/mo T-1 service. Old fashioned 1001-A alarm circuits don't seem to be on the price list anymore. Welcome to our de-regulated world. So, gentle readers, has anyone out there found a way around this insane pricing model? Is it still possible to "roll your own" DSL or has the phone company priced all copper to discourage all competing uses?