An anonymous reader writes: For the last few years makers from Creative to Virgin have proclaimed their latest DAP to be an iPod Killer, only to watch those portables flame-out in the marketplace. This doen't mean there was anything wrong with them, in fact some were pretty decent. They just couldn't compete under all the iPod hype. It turns out this created a a huge sub-market of unsold stock, sold for pennies on the dollar to overstock vendors who then pawn them off cheap to the public. For the price of a basic iPod Shuffle you can now acquire some well-equipped units. Examples include the 40GB Toshiba Gigabeat F40 and AlienWare's CE-IV with external speaker system.