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Phurge writes: TEN years of suicide data after John Howard's decision to ban and then buy back 600,000 semi-automatic rifles and shotguns has had a stunning effect.

The buyback cut firearm suicides by 74 per cent, saving 200 lives a year, according to research to be published in The American Law and Economics Review.

A former Australian Treasury economist, Christine Neill, now with Wilfrid Laurier University in Ontario, Canada, said she found the research result so surprising she tried to redo her calculations on the off chance the total could have been smaller.

''I fully expected to find no effect at all,'' she told the Herald. ''That we found such a big effect and that it meshed with a range of other data was just shocking, completely unexpected.''

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Gun buy back in Aust --stunning fall in suicides

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  • Ummm, OK... (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Deadstick ( 535032 ) on Sunday August 29, 2010 @12:49PM (#33409304) cut firearm suicides by 74%. How much did it cut suicides by?


  • First of all, the obvious "correlation does not equal causation" applies. This claim is similar to statements like "Less guns of contributed to less crime in Australia". While the statement may or may not be true, it is utterly irresponsible to link the lower gun ownership to the crime drop. To demonstrate how ludicrous this is, one only has to look at the US. The US has the highest gun ownership per capita in the entire world. Gun ownership per capita continues to rise dramatically each year, and yet
    • by jimicus ( 737525 )

      Possibly not, but suicide is not a simple subject and you can't just shrug this off with "Correlation does not equal causation" argument.

      There is some evidence to suggest that suicidal feelings don't tend to be something that depressed people suffer from all the time - they're feelings that come and go and seldom last that long at a time. It follows that if there's no immediate easy way to commit suicide in the vicinity, there's a good chance that the feeling will have gone before the means to go ahead bec

    • So sick of "correlation does not equal causation". While technically correct, people use it as an excuse to completely ignore symptoms that do demonstrate areas or statistical correlation.

      I was reading an article the other day people who sit for more than 8 hours a day are more likely to die than average, and people who sit less than 3 hours are less likely to die. Now, that's an example where the argument can be used, fairly. The sitting itself is not a contributing factor, but a symptom. Very inactive peo

  • Less concerned about suicides. More concerned about firearms related deaths in general. Anyone got any figures?

A CONS is an object which cares. -- Bernie Greenberg.