First Domain Registration Competition Goes Online 100
Asher Lev writes "The first competition for domain name registration is now online. They aren't offering any deals, but you can check it out anyway at register.com. "
What is algebra, exactly? Is it one of those three-cornered things? -- J.M. Barrie
Simultaneous reg of same domain. Who wins? (Score:1)
Re:firstpost.com (Score:1)
What ever happened to the other TLD's (Score:1)
The big problem is the lack of good names. I thought this was supposed to be attacked by 7 new top level domains like .firm, .info, .web, etc.
Does anyone know what ever happened to the new domains?
Re:CENSORSHIP AND OTHER STRANGE OCCURRENCES - READ (Score:1)
whois.cgi.990607:if ($domain=~
There security is really horrible. I mean, really really bad. I wouldn't trust them one bit.
ECONOMIC point of view. (Score:2)
http://coca.kellogg.nwu.edu/econ.html
It discusses why this "competitive" market, is in fact, not competitive.
Re:They don't have to be cheaper (Score:2)
solicitations for web hosting, site creation
software, etc, etc. It's the same old crap.
Re:ECONOMIC [and wrong] point of view. (Score:2)
NSI does maintain a monopoly on the
Yay! (Score:1)
Anybody know register.com's price tag for a domain? Or is the same?
More not new (Score:1)
I registered two domains with them last month with zero problems and no additional cost. They even parked them for free.
The sole problem is they had a sales rep call to pitch their hosting & ecommerce services. He was friendly, smart and wasn't pushy when I said no.
I love having an alternative and will use them again.
Re:The Point Please? (Score:1)
The Answer (Score:2)
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Re:ECONOMIC point of view. (Score:1)
Log
Re:Simultaneous reg of same domain. Who wins? (Score:3)
Dispute policy indistinguishable from NSI... (Score:2)
If any other potential registrars are reading this, please consider the following approaches to differentiating yourselves from those evil bastards at NSI:
I *hate* NSI.
Re:More not new (Score:1)
Re:TLDs? (Score:1)
register.com: Clueless? (Score:1)
TLD: .md
Price: $299/1 year as of April 02, 1999
Country: Moldova
Comment: Intended for use by the medical profession
Quick, somebody tell the people in Moldova their entire country is part of the medical profession...
Server problems? (Score:1)
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Re:CENSORSHIP AND OTHER STRANGE OCCURRENCES - READ (Score:1)
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Re:Server problems? (Score:1)
Maybe register.com got slashdotted already.
When I go there, all I see is,
Re:The Point Please? (Score:1)
.us domains are free and ugly.
They look like:
john.robert.smith.podunk.arkansas.us
Full name, town, state. So farewell to any privacy about personal information, plus no indication of content of your domain unless you're a k12 school.
Confusing wording? (Score:2)
Re:The Point Please? (Score:1)
Re:register.com sucks - Did we work together? (Score:1)
Either that, or someone who's remarkably prescient.
Somehow, I get the feeling that there are other people out there who might feel like saying the same thing as Benedict. Or maybe not.
"Systems Upgrade" == "haha" (Score:1)
whee!
Re:Confusing wording? (Score:1)
Puzzling over how it would work until I read the article body.
Okay, who beat me to it?!@#!@?!@#$ (Score:1)
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Not new: I registered a domain with them May 5 (Score:1)
Re:Not new: I registered a domain with them May 5 (Score:1)
http://www.icann.org/icann-pr21apr99.htm
Re:Confusing wording? (Score:1)
Re:NSI stops all ISP domain related tech support? (Score:2)
The base registry information (basically, the name servers for the domain and who the responsible registrar is) is available separately from NSI's whois, on a web page at www.nsiregistry.com [nsiregistry.com]. I'm not sure whether I think their consequent hijacking of the rs.internic.net whois gateway that all our whois commands point to by default is good, but at least in the open source community we can fix that problem quickly if we decide to. On the other hand, since NSI is probably not going to be running the registry long term, 'nsiregistry.com' is an odd choice of domain name.
We are a long way from this multiple-registrar stuff working smoothly!! But, in the long run I think it will be better than what we have now. The transition is going to be painful and confusing, though.
--BitDancer
NSI stops all ISP domain related tech support? (Score:3)
So I do a normal, workaday 'whois' query, and today it says at the bottom:
Well, I most certainly do NOT agree! How can my tech support people help our domain customers if we can't make "commercial use" of the informtation returned by a whois query, for gnu's sake? There's noplace *else* to get this info. I just check register.com, and their whois page just queries the NSI database, and that same message shows up at the bottom of the response screen. Which, I'm sure, is why NSI put it there.
NSI has been trying to claim that they have a compilation copyright (or something like that) on the current database. This smells like an attempt to assert that, and I sure hope the stuff hits the fan over this.
This is intolerable.
--Bitdancer
Can competition really be meaningful? (Score:1)
I thought most people were faulting NSI's database administration more than any other part of their business - mainly because that
So what's the point of having "competition" when the only value added a competitor can bring to the table is friendlier web forms?
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Re:Can competition really be meaningful? (Score:1)
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Re:Web hosting... (Score:1)
Re:Almost useless, not quite. (Score:3)
Actually, if it would improve the service, most would be happy to pay $100 or more. Charging less than a hardcover book for a domain name only benefits the squatters and overloads the system.
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Why not have a revolution (Score:1)
Also, if nobody challenges the notice at the bottom of the whois results soon, I don't think the courts will be disagreeing with it as much in the future.
Almost useless, not quite. (Score:1)
I see no reason to use them yet. If they don't offer SOME form of incentive to use them, they'll die.
Register.com isn't... (Score:1)
Billions and Billions served (Score:3)
They already have 741984 domains registered? I didn't think that they had been around long enough for that. Have they pre-registered a bunch of likely names and will then pass them on to the visitors to their site? That would be domain name squatting on their part.
Or is the 741984 value the total number of domain names registered on the entire 'net, including those registered by NSI? In that case, they really shouldn't have that number on their page. I mean, I could start a hamburger stand and put up a sign saying "Billions and Billions sold", but that doesn't mean that I did the selling of them.
Re:Server problems? (Score:1)
Register.com's censoring code snipit:
if ($domain=~
$ERROR_MESSAGE = "The domain you have chosen is not available.";
return $ERROR_MESSAGE;
}
elsif ($domain=~
$ERROR_MESSAGE = "The domain you have chosen is not available.";
return $ERROR_MESSAGE;
}
elsif ($domain=~
$ERROR_MESSAGE = "The domain you have chosen is not available.";
return $ERROR_MESSAGE;
}
CENSORSHIP AND OTHER STRANGE OCCURRENCES - READ!! (Score:2)
Try registering SHITSDAASDASD.COM or some similar variation at Register.com and it will say the name isn't available even though it really is. Then goto NSI and try registering the same domain and select 'Reserve' and you'll find it works as it should since NSI removed the SHIT filter awhile back.
Appearantly Register.com isn't up to speed and when I emailed Register.com yesterday, they denied they are rejecting registration *requests* based on profane keywords even though they really are.
A more disturbing problem is that Register.com has *appearantly* blacklisted some people preventing them from registering domains through them (not sure the exact machanism, but assume it's either done via email address and/or phone#). Perhaps, this is just bad luck, but my personal experience suggests otherwise. Anyone else experience similar problems, please post and/or email me.
Bottom line is until Register.com gets their customer service and their policies straight, I'd strongly recommend people to avoid them.
At least NSI is a known quantity and while their service isn't great, they for the most part have done a decent job. So for now I'm sticking with NSI until there's a compelling reason to switch to another registrar - ie. better price and/or extra services.
Ron Bennett
Re:Almost useless, not quite. (Score:1)
NSI has been nothing but evil incarnate (ok, well maybe that's an exaggeration, but not quite) in the way it has treated domain registrars. If all things are equal and I despise one registrar (NSI) the other wins by default.
But What I wanna know is... (Score:3)
I'd LOVE to start dumping money somewhere OTHER than NSI, but I'm not about to chance losing my domain to do it.
Their site doesn't seem to make any mention of that and you would THINK they'd also be trying to make some go of grabbing renewal profits if they could do so...
Re:.......................... (Score:1)
Re:Confusing wording? (Score:1)
Re:NSI stops all ISP domain related tech support? (Score:1)
If I get really motivated, next month I send a request for payment with interest, but probably not. Life is short....
A. Michael Froomkin [mailto]
U. Miami School of Law,POB 248087
Coral Gables, FL 33124,USA
Things aren't going to get any better anytime soon (Score:3)
The problem with the new registrars is that they still have to go through Network Solutions' horrible database system. Almost every problem I've had with my domains has been due to records not being changed in the NSI db, usually without any indication of what was wrong, and sometimes with no indication either way for days. I have friends that have sat for weeks while their dns change forms get denied over and over again.
NSI's customer service is terrible, and I'd love to use another company that placed importance on customer satisfaction, but if you're having problems changing records on your dotcom records, I don't know how a second party like register.com can help.
If NSI allowed a competing firm to build a web interface that let you edit your records directly (instead of having to use antiquated e-mail forms with cryptic functions and names all over them), I'd move my domains to the new firm immediately. But NSI has registered over 5 million domains (and making half a million a day on registration fees!) and wants to continue doing so, so you'll never see a competing firm offering more features, a better interface, or a price less than $35/yr.
It's called a monopoly, and I think Network Solutions enjoys that status immensely.
firstpost.ac might have been funnier (was Re: Heh) (Score:2)
Re:More not new (Score:3)
NSI has 'oddly' imporoved, but... (Score:2)
I haven't had to deal with their customer service... from my past experiences with them it has a *long* way to go before it would even be considered equal to that of the California Department of Motor Vehicles (lowest possible denominator).
Perhaps they have turned a new leaf now that they have competition. However, as far as I'm concerned, it's too little too late. They should have done this at least a year ago. Unless they lower their prices, I will be taking my business to register.com.
--SONET
doh! (Score:1)
Re:TLDs? [found more] (Score:1)
http://www.news.com/News/Item/0,4,3 5221,00.html [news.com]
But it's still very sketchy. It's going to have to happen someday, just like IPv6, namespace is just pitiful right now.
TLDs? (Score:3)
Re:Things aren't going to get any better anytime s (Score:2)
Personally I would be willing to pay up to $100 a year if there was good service/interface I have been requesting since january to have my conformation permissions changed and have not heard a word from NSI/internic. Would switch in a heart beat.. even repay the 2 year price if I can be allowed to change my info instantly and easily.
They don't have to be cheaper (Score:2)
One Problem... (Score:1)
Aaron
Not sure about "grabbing"... (Score:1)
They also registered all of nacurh.com, nacurh.net, and nacurh.org, even though they're really just and
But it does appear that NSI grabbed at least one domain that people had been banging down the doors for and that they had refused to give out, about two weeks before register.com went official.
As for domain registrars registering queried names, well, I wouldn't be surprised if most domainmongers do that if the name looks useful to them.
Could register.com legally charge a higher price for one domain than their posted rate for registration?
Regards,
Okay.. so.. and? (Score:2)
So what's the difference? They even call themselves "the first domain registrar to register domain names." Huh? Isn't that a redundancy? Doubletalk even?
Don't expect this to help any of those nagging NS censorship issues... since we should probably assume that NS bought all the leftover dirty ones themselves recently. Goodness, what if register.com had allowed someone to buy the mother(~.com'er)-of-all-domains?
Regards,
Re:Register.com isn't... (Score:1)
Re:Yay! (Score:1)
Price is same....
Pettiness smites all with its stupidity.
Re:More not new (Score:1)
Re:Why not have a revolution (Score:1)
Obviously, the problem is that people are NOT going to get together, compile an open database, and switch to it. Not enough, anyway.
NSI (Score:1)
Re:Billions and Billions served (Score:1)
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Re:NSI stops all ISP domain related tech support? (Score:1)
Re:Billions and Billions served... Huh? (Score:1)
Go point and click... you'll feel better :-) (Score:1)
How come my toaster dont have a shutdown icon?
I cant be expected to unplug the thing! I'm lost without pretty icons!!! Help me!!!!!!
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Re:Okay.. so.. and? (Score:1)
And I've been wondering for several months why when I typo a domain, I often get a generic "wouldn't you like to register that domain name?" screen of uncertain provenance. Hmmm...
AlterNic was in it for the fame and fortune (Score:1)
'Course, again, ICANN is supposed to be that and do that in it's own way.
We could really use Jon Postel right now, methinks.
Re:The Point Please? (Score:1)
The Point Please? (Score:1)
if they want to win...make it cheeper!
Re:The Point Please? (Score:1)
Current Internic is providing no service at all (Score:1)