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The Writers Guild of America Would Allow AI In Scriptwriting, As Long as Writers Maintain Credit (variety.com) 51

The Writers Guild of America has proposed allowing artificial intelligence to write scripts, as long as it does not affect writers' credits or residuals. Variety reports: The guild had previously indicated that it would propose regulating the use of AI in the writing process, which has recently surfaced as a concern for writers who fear losing out on jobs. But contrary to some expectations, the guild is not proposing an outright ban on the use of AI technology. Instead, the proposal would allow a writer to use ChatGPT to help write a script without having to share writing credit or divide residuals. Or, a studio executive could hand the writer an AI-generated script to rewrite or polish and the writer would still be considered the first writer on the project.

In effect, the proposal would treat AI as a tool -- like Final Draft or a pencil -- rather than as a writer. It appears to be intended to allow writers to benefit from the technology without getting dragged into credit arbitrations with software manufacturers. The proposal does not address the scenario in which an AI program writes a script entirely on its own, without help from a person. The guild's proposal was discussed in the first bargaining session on Monday with the Alliance of Motion Picture and Television Producers. Three sources confirmed the proposal. It's not yet clear whether the AMPTP, which represents the studios, will be receptive to the idea. The WGA proposal states simply that AI-generated material will not be considered "literary material" or "source material." Those terms are key for assigning writing credits, which in turn have a big impact on residual compensation.

"Literary material" is a fundamental term in the WGA's minimum basic agreement -- it is what a "writer" produces (including stories, treatments, screenplays, dialogue, sketches, etc.). If an AI program cannot produce "literary material," then it cannot be considered a "writer" on a project. "Source material" refers to things like novels, plays and magazine articles, on which a screenplay may be based. If a screenplay is based on source material, then it is not considered an "original screenplay." The writer may also get only a "screenplay by" credit, rather than a "written by" credit. A "written by" credit entitles the writer to the full residual for the project, while a "screenplay by" credit gets 75%. By declaring that ChatGPT cannot write "source material," the guild would be saying that a writer could adapt an AI-written short story and still get full "written by" credit.

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  • (Human) "And the award for best artificial screenplay goes to, wait why am I up here saying this?"

    Screenplays are alright, but for shits sake don't ever let it write poetry. It might try and best a Vogon.

  • Appears corrupt and shortsighted. Do you want someone to try to steal your work and put you out of a job? Sure, why not?
  • Doesn't matter (Score:4, Interesting)

    by EvilSS ( 557649 ) on Thursday March 23, 2023 @10:47PM (#63395015)
    with the current stance of the USPTO on AI generated content no one is going to be using AI anytime soon for scripts. Not and admit it. Studios are not going to want scripts without a copyright.
    • by micheas ( 231635 )

      Studios grab public domain scripts and stories all the time. See, the Jungle Book for an example of a studio waiting a few years to release a movie so that they could not pay royalties to the original author.

      This shouldn't impact things any more than making a movie about Romeo and Juliet.

      The interesting thing is that studios want to claim AI as the primary author and pocket 25% of the royalties that would otherwise go to writers.

      It seems to me that even if the studios pocket the 25% there should be far mo

      • Studios grab public domain scripts and stories all the time.

        What? No...

        See, the Jungle Book for an example of a studio waiting a few years to release a movie so that they could not pay royalties to the original author.

        ...what are you even talking about?

        The copyright on the 1894 book by Kipling ran out in 1950, as copyright law back then was at-least-remotely-defensible "28+28" - twenty-eight years from publication, with an additional twenty-eight years granted if one went through the hassle of renewing it. The only movie made in this time period was the 1942 film, which wasn't held up in production whatsoever.

        The 1967 film (i.e., the Disney one that people remember) was made well after the copyright on the 189

      • by EvilSS ( 557649 )
        No. They use public domain stories and characters but the scripts they create are most definitely not public domain. Public domain does not work like an open source license, derivative works are not automagically public domain as well.
    • Studios are not going to want scripts without a copyright.

      Well, they can give the AI an artificial copyright and artificial residuals. Just like many real writers get treated in Hollywood.

      • by EvilSS ( 557649 )
        What is artificial copyright and residuals?
        • by Bob_Who ( 926234 )
          Well, Artificial Copyright is the fact that LAW is poor protection for WRITERS. This goes to the HEART of a much broader issue of INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY as well as FAIR USE and a whole slew of inconsistencies and unfairness when it comes to getting justice of OWNERSHIP OF IDEAS. Writers MUST SHARE their work in order to SELL it, and nothing can protect their ideas from being stolen. Industry professionals all have their work stolen to various levels of degree. Nothing protects ideas that are shared with
    • with the current stance of the USPTO on AI generated content no one is going to be using AI anytime soon for scripts. Not and admit it. Studios are not going to want scripts without a copyright.

      The underlying draft may not be copyrightable, but a script produced from it would. The USTPO has said as much in a clarifying statement [usnews.com] after rejecting some AI produced art.

      • by EvilSS ( 557649 )

        with the current stance of the USPTO on AI generated content no one is going to be using AI anytime soon for scripts. Not and admit it. Studios are not going to want scripts without a copyright.

        The underlying draft may not be copyrightable, but a script produced from it would. The USTPO has said as much in a clarifying statement [usnews.com] after rejecting some AI produced art.

        The movie would be but the script would not unless heavily edited by a human. That is why they say the comic would be but the panel art is not.

        • with the current stance of the USPTO on AI generated content no one is going to be using AI anytime soon for scripts. Not and admit it. Studios are not going to want scripts without a copyright.

          The underlying draft may not be copyrightable, but a script produced from it would. The USTPO has said as much in a clarifying statement [usnews.com] after rejecting some AI produced art.

          The movie would be but the script would not unless heavily edited by a human. That is why they say the comic would be but the panel art is not.

          That’s the whole point of the SWGA argument - the AI draft is a rough outline that is heavily edited to produce a viable script; which would be copyrightable, per the USPTO. The AI generated outline would not be, which makes senses since a similar set of guidelines could result in a very similar outline.

          • by EvilSS ( 557649 )
            I still don't think studios would go for this. The possibility of getting bit in the ass is still too high. For example, if you are working on a new property, you run the risk of creation of the characters being assigned to the AI, which would mean the studio would lose control of those characters. Studios are not going to want to risk it.
            • I still don't think studios would go for this. The possibility of getting bit in the ass is still too high. For example, if you are working on a new property, you run the risk of creation of the characters being assigned to the AI, which would mean the studio would lose control of those characters. Studios are not going to want to risk it.

              Good points. It will be interesting to see how this plays out. At a basic level, there are only a few basic movie types; and creating generic characters that a writer fleshes out probably would be protected. For example, do not name characters but give some generic characteristics. Creating artwork to be used for costume design is probably more problematic, IMHO, and thus less likely to be used. The USPTO will need to provide some good clarifying guidance as to what qualifies as an original work. I susp

    • by tlhIngan ( 30335 )

      with the current stance of the USPTO on AI generated content no one is going to be using AI anytime soon for scripts. Not and admit it. Studios are not going to want scripts without a copyright.

      The USPTO will not allow AI generated scripts to be copyrighted. However that doesn't mean portions can't be written by an AI. Scripts aren't written in a vacuum - you often start with a treatment first (which is a 2-3 page summary of the episode/tv show/movie/etc) that directs the main beats that the script will hav

      • by EvilSS ( 557649 )

        The USPTO will not allow AI generated scripts to be copyrighted. However that doesn't mean portions can't be written by an AI. Scripts aren't written in a vacuum - you often start with a treatment first (which is a 2-3 page summary of the episode/tv show/movie/etc) that directs the main beats that the script will have to flesh out. There's nothing that says AI can't write the treatment, as the script writers then can write the story around it.

        So, as I said, it doesn't matter. It won't change the pay, credit, or royalties for the writer. My point was, they would not REPLACE writers because of the copyright issue, and studios may actually push back against their use due to the risks involved.

        Also, just because the script isn't copyrighted, doesn't mean the TV episode or movie can't be copyrighted

        I never said it did. However, no studio is going to take on a script it knows can't be copyrighted as it opens up the script, and if it's the start of a "franchise" then potentially the entire franchise to exploitation by their competitors. They won't give

  • by couchslug ( 175151 ) on Friday March 24, 2023 @01:11AM (#63395283)

    As automation destroys scarcity the public benefit. Tough shit for the rent seekers now pabulum production can be automated.

  • Type writers, word processors, grammar/spell checkers. Ok, now we've taken the next step to something that can produce drafts. I have no problem with them keeping the credit and the money.

    However... Let's be honest here: like any other tool, this will increase productivity, which will reduce the number of people needed in the field.

    I am reminded of my first introduction to a union, when I worked a summer installing a computer system at a sewage plant. One of my jobs, as an intern, was to go to a remote se

  • Hollyweird movies are already bad enough. Now they want to make them worse because they don't know how to write anymore and need AI to do that work.
  • 1. A denial-of-service attack on the copyright system through mass-scaled, impractical-to-punish plagiarism, or...

    2. Hackery intended to get something greenlit through brute-force, monkey-typewriter combinatorics.

    No creativity is intended or likely.
  • House painters approve the use of house painting robots as long as house painters still get paid as much. /shock.

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  • The WGA is currently in a media blackout while it is negotiating contracts over the use of AI. The Variety article cites no sources.

    So we know that the claim that the WGA made such a proposal did not come from the WGA itself, and that someone is bullshitting Variety.

    The articles says above the body "UPDATED with WGA response" except what was added was a response from WGA West to proposal that is claimed to be from the WGA. There is no response from whoever is alleged to put forward that proposal.

    So we know

  • The US Copyright office already issued their opinion on generative AI, and recently affirmed it with a comic case.

    Anything generated by a small prompt to an AI, by that AI and not by a human, cannot be copyrighted because it is not a "product of humans". You can copyright any part you yourself create, like a story used to generate AI images, but you couldn't copyright the generated product itself. Also, not reporting something you copyright as AI-generated is a separate violation of their policy.

    The m
  • Given:

    - 3 geek culture references
    - 2 awkward social statements
    - 1 comic book character

    I can madlib my way to 80% of an acceptable Big Bang Theory script. I could then choose to wrap it around some coherent ideal... or I might not.

  • This is a good way to go if the "AI" is trained only on material where the copyright owners of the material won't object.

    If they will object, this is a non-starter.

    I, for one, welcome our new screenwriting Robot Overlords.

  • 98% of all scripts have always seemed to be written by a half-wit retard, artificial or not.

  • Animators get credit (as they should) when all they do is provide a few key-frame poses and tweaks. The animation software does most of the work.

    Writers who use AI will learn its quirks, how to steer to it to the story they want. They'll probably edit it, both for mistakes and style.

  • by byronivs ( 1626319 ) on Friday March 24, 2023 @03:59PM (#63397239) Journal
    How is this even enforceable on a social level let alone guild or legal level? How ridiculous. As a writer, or artist of any kind; I'll use whatever tool I goddamn well want. If I literally want to hire 100 monkeys to bang on keys I'll use that--Uncredited to any monkey at all! So there! Go on wasting your time and treasure looking for "AI use." Fools.

    That said, I'm pretty sure we're going to be able to identify AI (of various flavors) output based on its "feel" or "look." Humans are still superior pattern seekers. See the things we made to do that? Ouroboros. Sssp!

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