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China Privacy Technology

China's Top Android Phones Collect Way More Info (theregister.com) 42

Artem S. Tashkinov writes: Don't buy an Android phone in China, boffins have warned, as they come crammed with preinstalled apps transmitting privacy-sensitive data to third-party domains without consent or notice. The research, conducted by Haoyu Liu (University of Edinburgh), Douglas Leith (Trinity College Dublin), and Paul Patras (University of Edinburgh), suggests that private information leakage poses a serious tracking risk to mobile phone customers in China, even when they travel abroad in countries with stronger privacy laws.

In a paper titled "Android OS Privacy Under the Loupe: A Tale from the East," the trio of university boffins analyzed the Android system apps installed on the mobile handsets of three popular smartphone vendors in China: OnePlus, Xiaomi and Oppo Realme. The researchers looked specifically at the information transmitted by the operating system and system apps, in order to exclude user-installed software. They assume users have opted out of analytics and personalization, do not use any cloud storage or optional third-party services, and have not created an account on any platform run by the developer of the Android distribution. A sensible policy, but it doesn't seem to help much. Within this limited scope, the researchers found that Android handsets from the three named vendors "send a worrying amount of Personally Identifiable Information (PII) not only to the device vendor but also to service providers like Baidu and to Chinese mobile network operators."

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China's Top Android Phones Collect Way More Info

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  • Surprising No One (Score:4, Insightful)

    by BroccoliKing ( 6229350 ) on Tuesday February 07, 2023 @10:43AM (#63272159)
    Phones made by Chinese companies contact Chinese companies.
    • Re: (Score:1, Insightful)

      by Excelcia ( 906188 )

      Not surprising, no. But when you think about it, if you take it as given that:
      A) All phones will track you.
      B) That tracking data will eventually make it's way to intelligence or law enforcement, either automatically or on (token) request,
      then I think I'd rather own a Chinese phone than an American one. An American phone's tracking data will end up on five eyes eventually. But the last people any Chinese company or agency will be sharing data with is the NSA, or any other western TLA. If I'm going to be

      • B) That tracking data will eventually make it's way to intelligence or law enforcement, either automatically or on (token) request,

        I don't care about my own countries LE organizations. I care more sbout private organizations sharing my data with their 'partners'. Because I'm not certain where these partners loyslties lie. You might think that your private information is safe with the CCP. Where you never plan to travel. Until you travel to Canada and discover that their concept of individual civil rights is a joke [wikipedia.org].

        • by haruchai ( 17472 )

          "Until you travel to Canada and discover that their concept of individual civil rights is a joke"

          Yet somehow they manage to treat their citizens better than the Arsenal of Freedom

          • by PPH ( 736903 )

            As long as you don't want any favors that your monarch hasn't seen fit to bestow upon the serfs. you might consider that to be 'better'.

            • by haruchai ( 17472 )

              As long as you don't want any favors that your monarch hasn't seen fit to bestow upon the serfs. you might consider that to be 'better'.

              The Canadian constitution was repatriated away from the Crown over *FORTY* years ago.
              Try to keep up.
              The Governor-General is a ceremonial position. Technically that person *could* refuse the request or demand of the Prime Minister of Canada but they would quickly be turfed & the position abolished unilaterally.

              • by PPH ( 736903 )

                your monarch [wikipedia.org]

                He might not wear a crown and robes. But he plays the role pretty well.

                • by haruchai ( 17472 )

                  your monarch [wikipedia.org]

                  He might not wear a crown and robes. But he plays the role pretty well.

                  How so?
                  Biggest difference between POTUS & PM of Canuckistan is that the latter doesn't have term limits - of which I don't approve for any elected or appointed & Canadians can't vote directly for the PM unless they live in his riding.
                  If the PM loses a vote of confidence, he's out, on the spot.

      • But the last people any Chinese company or agency will be sharing data with is the NSA, or any other western TLA

        And why would you think that? I am pretty sure that a Chinese company will sell that data to any Western company to make money. Eventually that data ends up in the hands of the NSA.

        • And why would you think that? I am pretty sure that a Chinese company will...

          ...do exactly what the government tells them do, on pain of death and worse. The Chinese government looks the other way on a lot of graft and corruption. But not when it comes to dealing with western intelligence agencies. Exactly no Chinese company will want to be caught dealing with a western TLA, period.

          • But you assume a false dichotomy where two intelligence agencies cannot both possess the same data. China already won by having the data of Western customers. Selling it to Western companies is a bonus.
  • What are Apple, Samsung et al. doing to insure that no random data collection apps are being installed from the factory?

    • They are not. You can PAY them to install this crap on their phones in such a way that it cannot be removed.
    • What are Apple, Samsung et al. doing to insure that no random data collection apps are being installed from the factory?

      Assuming that you're serious... seeing that they are actively acting to better and more secretively track you further, the answer to your question is exactly nothing.

    • 1) that's not how begging the question works
      2) duh

    • What are Apple, Samsung et al. doing to insure that no random data collection apps are being installed from the factory?

      "Quick, steer the conversation away from third-party privacy invasions of a mobile OS developed by a data-gorging ad-company!"

  • Russia bad. China bad. We're heading into WWIII. Civilization was a nice experiment, until it turned out humans were animals all along.

  • That Chinese-made rotary-dial phone I found on eBay doesn't collect much info.

    Now if only I could find a POTS line to plug it into, my cable box's phone adapter doesn't grok rotary dial.

    • I have pictured in my mind a phone that is talking like it was in The Canterbury Tales.
    • Well if you can get it to RJ11 then there are options but you may not be able to get around DTMF requirements. You could probably cobble something together with a Raspberry PI to convert rotary clicks to DTMF.

      It'd be a fun project.

    • I'm a bit surprised that someone who posts on slashdot and uses the word grok doesn't know about pulse to tone adapters (https://www.dialgizmo.com/).
  • in China?

    Also, people, stop being fsked by Apple and Google.

    Get custom ROM.
    • Probably. OnePlus and Xiaomi phones are quite easy to root. In fact, The OnePlus One came with cyanogenmod (which later became LineageOS).
  • Looks like (Score:4, Interesting)

    by Ol Olsoc ( 1175323 ) on Tuesday February 07, 2023 @03:13PM (#63273043)
    Slashdot posts something about China that isn't glowing. The Chinese bots and apologists go nuts.

    No, Google and China are not equal. China can make you dead if they choose.

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