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Amazon Launches Preview of New 'AWS Private 5G' Managed Service (techcrunch.com) 19

At Amazon's AWS re:Invent conference this morning, the company announced the preview of "AWS Private 5G," which is a new service that aims to make it easy to deploy and manage your own private global network. From a report: The launch is meant to address the challenges companies are facing with leveraging 5G. AWS CEO Adam Selipsky said that with AWS Private 5G, you can set up and scale a private mobile network in days instead of months. "You get all the goodness of mobile technology without the pain of long planning cycles, complex integrations and the high upfront costs," Selipsky stated during the company's keynote. "You tell us where you want to build your network and specify the network capacity. We ship you all the required hardware, the software and the SIM cards."
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Amazon Launches Preview of New 'AWS Private 5G' Managed Service

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  • are there romaing fees? caps? slowdown point?
    Are you really useing things ATT towers and they can cap you / slow you down vs ATT sims

    • That would be entirely up to you. Not mentioned here is how long it takes to get the spectrum licensing from the FCC.

    • by Holi ( 250190 )
      Did you not look at anything? This is not piggybacking off of a network provider. This is AWS providing you radios and servers to setup your own AWS managed 5g network on your campus.
      • by Junta ( 36770 )

        That was not my take. I suspect they are offering to abstract away dealing with the mobile network operators, where Amazon pays them with the money you pay to Amazon. I don't think they are offering to help set up your own 5G tower. The 'private' word certainly makes it confusing, but I think that's Amazon's word for 'not running in our datacenter' rather than 'independently operating from the carriers'.

        • by Holi ( 250190 )
          That's cuz the summary says nothing.

          Amazon Web Services (AWS) and Deloitte, an AWS Premier Consulting Partner and Managed Service Provider (MSP), enable modern enterprises to build their own private 4G or private 5G networks.
          https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/a... [amazon.com]
        • by Holi ( 250190 )
          And yes they literally send you radios and servers to setup your own towers.
      • Look at the linked article second slide, last line 'operates in shared spectrum'. It is a shared service.

        Gonna be funny seeing the first article 'many campuses lose network access because AWS 5G service is currently down'. Just more spaces for eggs in the cloud basket.
        • Shared spectrum, not shared service. Looks like Amazon is slicing up (subletting) spectrum licenses under the 3.5GHz Citizens Broadband Radio Service (CBRS). However, if I'm reading it right an AWS outage of 4 minutes or so would prevent the hardware from being able to renew its spectrum license and the radios would shut down since they coordinate access to shared spectrum over Amazon's infrastructure.

        • By "shared spectrum" they mean the parts used by WiFi and Bluetooth. So yes, this is going to crap all over your wifi.
          If it was anything else, you would need a spectrum license and you can't afford one of those.

          The articles will be of the form "many campuses lose WiFi access as AWS 5G is deployed".

          • No, the shared spectrum is better called "lightly licensed." It is the CBRS spectrum that is band 48 and is regulated through SAS providers. You have a subscription, you can operate in the band, hence why it is shared. No auction to own the spectrum and everybody has a TX power limit as given by the SAS. So you can't blow away our user just because you can turn your knob to 11. The SW won't let you go past 4.
            • Well thank goodness for that. It's only going to blow away any nearby walkie talkies with a nice harsh digital carrier.

      • by PPH ( 736903 )

        setup your own AWS managed 5g network on your campus

        That would be about 6,000 square miles. We already have a viable SCADA and meter reading mesh network of our own to cover this territory. And we don't have to compete for bandwidth with some sperglords playing GTA V and whining about our operations increasing game latency.

  • by wakeboarder ( 2695839 ) on Tuesday November 30, 2021 @03:35PM (#62034229)

    Why not setup a wifi network? They are probably cheaper. The other thing is what's the point? If I have an internal 5G network there are a few differences:
    1) I have to have sim cards
    2) The corporate 5G network would only work with corporate devices that would only work on corperate property, whereas a 5G phone from a cell provider works anywhere.
    3) Wifi works with existing devices. And there is probably less setup.

    So I could see speed being a factor maybe range is a factor, but last time I checked 5G does not extend that far.

    • You point number 2 is the main point for this type of network. Wireless connectivity with layers of security and control. Keep my data in my network.

      Wifi for indoor, private cellular for outdoor. The number of wifi APs needed to cover an outdoor (or large indoor like major warehouse) would be much higher than a private cellular LTE or 5G system. This works in the 3.7GHz range so goo propagation and data speeds for open spaces with the power level of your radio controlled via a Spectrum Access System (SAS) b

    • by Junta ( 36770 )

      1) When dealing with headless equipment or even with a display it can be hard to just be on wifi. On the wifi side, a headless devices generally becomes an access point to get provisioned by a nearby device. If you want secure credentials, it can be difficult. A sim card you slap in and off you go.
      2) This is in fact the desired outcome.
      3) Increasingly everything wants to have a cellular radio and a sim slot. No idea on range and ease of deployment.

      Of course, it seems weird now that it has been explained

    • The other thing is wifi can connect to multiple networks and is flexible, a sim card really only connects to one radio. So you want to change the way your network operates, you have to physically swap the card (and some devices are built to not swap cards).

  • You should check out what the system really is.

    https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/a... [amazon.com]

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