Intuit Slashes Pay and Cuts Health Benefits of Mailchimp Employees (businessinsider.com) 189
McGruber shares a report: Some Mailchimp employees said their situation just kept getting worse after they learned their company was being sold to Intuit in September. Employees discovered their MailChimp health benefits were abruptly terminated Sunday. Some employees also found out last week that their total pay as Intuit employees may be less, multiple employees said. "The general feeling from those I'm speaking to is that the transition has been so badly handled that the only explanation is that Intuit wants to drive attrition," one employee said. The employee, along with two others, spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak with the media. These employees said they learned their health benefits had lapsed only after their colleagues posted questions on Slack and in an online onboarding session. One said he found out when he went to go pick up a prescription and was told his coverage had expired.
The employees Business Insider spoke with said they would be covered retroactively only once the paperwork was finalized, which left them on the hook to pay upfront fees. Some employees had still not received their enrollment paperwork, they said. One said they canceled medical appointments for serious ongoing conditions to avoid bills for expensive treatments. "I am extremely worried that in a 1,200-person company, it seems likely at least one person or dependent will need an ER visit before they get their new info and be saddled with the stress of a six-figure out-of-pocket bill," another employee said. "Or worse, some support colleague making 50K a year won't take a sick kid in because they are worried about the cost."
The employees Business Insider spoke with said they would be covered retroactively only once the paperwork was finalized, which left them on the hook to pay upfront fees. Some employees had still not received their enrollment paperwork, they said. One said they canceled medical appointments for serious ongoing conditions to avoid bills for expensive treatments. "I am extremely worried that in a 1,200-person company, it seems likely at least one person or dependent will need an ER visit before they get their new info and be saddled with the stress of a six-figure out-of-pocket bill," another employee said. "Or worse, some support colleague making 50K a year won't take a sick kid in because they are worried about the cost."
Needs the NHS. (Score:5, Insightful)
Not just health - need to quit and make a copy. (Score:5, Interesting)
Heathcare sounds like only a small part fo their problem.
It really shouldn't be that difficult to make a start from scratch copy of Mailchimp. Given the employees got nothing they've got no reason to be loyal, so how about they teach companies about giving money to people like their cofounders and just all quite to make monkeymail.net (change name to be non-confusing). Do it now on the publicity from this and do it loudly enough and you can probably take 80% of the customers within a year.
Re:Not just health - need to quit and make a copy. (Score:4, Insightful)
It really shouldn't be that difficult to make a start from scratch copy of Mailchimp.
Mailchimp is an e-mail marketing service*. So what they have is a bunch of corporate customers that may choose to stay with the existing provider. It's probably that customer list that is of value to Intuit.
*They and their ilk can die in a fire for all I care.
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Mailchimp is an e-mail marketing service*. So what they have is a bunch of corporate customers that may choose to stay with the existing provider. It's probably that customer list that is of value to Intuit.
What Mailchimp knows and is good at is how not to get blocked when sending mail which is almost but not quite spam. There's a bunch of technical details and techniques for identifying troublemakers needed for that. If the people who know that leave together with the people that know how to sell that then those customers will soon stop staying with mailchimp / Intuit and will move to the service which works.
*They and their ilk can die in a fire for all I care.
I'm looking at what I get which comes via Mailchimp. I have to admit to some extremely aggressive sp
Re:Needs the NHS. (Score:5, Insightful)
Sounds like the US staff could do with a free-at-the-point-of-use National Health Service.
Don't know about that but sounds like the US staff would benefit from getting heath insurance which is not provided via your employer.
healthcare system needs remove lot of profit (Score:2)
healthcare system needs remove lot of profit.
It's not just the heath insurance it all other players the drive up the over all cost.
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Why shouldn't people involved in healthcare be working for a profit?
Oh..that's right....cause, you know, people need it.
I guess everyone involved in providing food, clothing, shelter, education, transportation, telecommunications and everything else people need should all be working without profit too.
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Re: healthcare system needs remove lot of profit (Score:5, Informative)
The US government made it a ransom by removing competition.
No, the US is one of the last countries in the world in which there still is competition in health care.
Turns out that this seems to be making it more expensive [wfae.org] not less.
That's primarily because the hospitals have found innovative ways to make costs invisible, so that nobody knows what a particular hospital visit will cost until they receive the bill.
https://www.npr.org/sections/h... [npr.org]
https://www.npr.org/sections/h... [npr.org]
Re:healthcare system needs remove lot of profit (Score:5, Insightful)
Why shouldn't people involved in healthcare be working for a profit?
Oh..that's right....cause, you know, people need it.
I guess everyone involved in providing food, clothing, shelter, education, transportation, telecommunications and everything else people need should all be working without profit too.
It's not the workers who get the profit. Employee salaries and benefits are costs. Profit is what you have left over and goes either to re-investment in the institution or to the owners for doing basically nothing. There is no good reason for a hospital to be run as a for-profit institution. Fees for service should be structured to cover costs plus a little over the top to grow an endowment and pay for future repairs and new infrastructure. Cut the capital class out of healthcare delivery.
Re: healthcare system needs remove lot of profit (Score:2)
Running and equipping a hospital is a set of skills that doesn't grow on trees. There are people who do it, and those people are in high demand.
That means the hospital has to attract them with high salaries and good benefits and good overall working conditions. This requires investment of capital.
There are two ways to attract capital: beg for donations, or beg for donations with the promise of repayment (and then some) later.
The first form is practiced by non-profit entities that usually offer prestige and
Re: healthcare system needs remove lot of profit (Score:4, Informative)
The United States spends the most on healthcare per person every year. With a per person cost of $10,586, the United States spends more than $3,000 more per person than the second-highest country Switzerland. U.S. households spent $980 billion on healthcare in 2017, which is about $3,200 per person. Despite spending the most on healthcare, health outcomes in the United States are not any better than other countries. One reason that the United States’ healthcare is so expensive is because of administrative costs, which account for about one-quarter of all healthcare costs, followed by the rising cost of drugs.
https://worldpopulationreview.... [worldpopul...review.com]
We pay the most by far and get terrible results https://www.usnews.com/news/be... [usnews.com]
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We pay the most by far and get terrible results https://www.usnews.com/news/be... [usnews.com]
Not 100% true.
As a 5yo Australian who was running around in the sun in the early 70's with no sunscreen, I'm paying for that now with skin cancer.
25 years ago, an odd lesion opened up on my arm that no doctor there was sure what it was. Even two dermatologists couldn't be sure what it was, but were sure it wasn't skin cancer.
After I moved to the US (and after some moving around), several years ago I'm finally with a doctor who referred me to a dermatologist who looked at this odd lesion and agreed with me
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Is it possible that in the years that went on between leaving Australia and getting diagnosed with cancer (really sorry about that; don't take this comment the wrong way in that regard) this specific type of cancer was first identified? Ie., no one at the time you were in Australia would have known what it was?
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Is it possible that in the years that went on between leaving Australia and getting diagnosed with cancer (really sorry about that; don't take this comment the wrong way in that regard) this specific type of cancer was first identified? Ie., no one at the time you were in Australia would have known what it was?
It's a reasonable question to ask; no offence taken.
The lesion had been there over five years, essentially unchanging, by the time I went to see the dermatologists in Australia. And this is Australia: the home of skin cancer. They chose to not remove it. My dermatologist here whips out the electrocutter if something seems amiss. That's more my point; the doctors here seem to be far more willing to get in and do stuff than they did in Australia.
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OTOH, an American doctor at an American hospital told my wife (after waiting in terrible pain for 8 hours) she had a UTI and garden variety constipation and needed to eat more leafy vegetable (as a vegetarian she already ate a lot of those). We were billed $800 for that. We were additionally billed $500 for an X-ray and $500 for the PA that saw her, and a couple hundred for drugs. It turned out to be a perforated bowel due to colon cancer. They still periodically send a bill and I still refuse to pay it s
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Have you seen the average alcohol consumption in the U.K.? Or the diet?
Healthcare in the U.S. is overpriced any way you analyse it. That included per-capita, per comparable incident, each medication compared to the identical medication anywhere else, etc. In all cases, an American and/or their insurer will pay much more than the government in a country where there is socialized medicine.
The typical health insurance premium is more than people in countries with socialized medicine pay as a part of their taxe
Re: healthcare system needs remove lot of profit (Score:2)
Aren't the brits perpetually complaining that their nhs is underfunded, underresourced, and has to rely on foreign staff with questionable credentials?
That's what happens when you pay less: along some dimensions you're going to get less.
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Aren't the brits perpetually complaining that their nhs is underfunded, underresourced, and has to rely on foreign staff with questionable credentials?
That's what happens when you pay less: along some dimensions you're going to get less.
Sure, but don't confuse the incidental paying less which comes from voting for a clinically stupid conservative government with a fundamental problem with the model. Under the government of 15 years ago things were working great relative to most other countries and Scotland previously experimented with increasing by about 5% the payment to the NHS and found it resolved most issues. Under Brexit Scotland's ability to do that has reduced, but the differences are still clear.
There's a reasonable argument tha
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And yet by any objective measure, they're doing better than Americans. Tell them what a trip to the ER costs in the U.S. and their jaw will drop to the floor if they even believe you.
Of course, the UK is suffering under several years of questionable government making stupid decisions. Just ask the Brits.
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The foreigners that used to work in their NHS were some of the best health workers in the world, so the Brits voted for Brexit to ensure they all had to go home. Once again, the Brits got what they deserved.
Fortunately there are plenty of other, much better public health systems you could compare America with. As in almost everyone else in the world.
All those other countries don't ha
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And yet, hospitals in the UK are also modern and often have more bells and whistles than U.S. hospitals. They spend about half as much on healthcare and clearly NOT because of doctors taking a vow of poverty.
The x-ray machine and monitor were probably paid off within a couple months of acquisition based on the money you paid and guessing they weren't sitting unused in the corner until you showed up with your kid.
Walmart has to pay to keep the lights on and the floor clean too, but it doesn't mark things up
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Yes it is underfunded, and no, it doesn't need to rely on "foreign staff with questionable credentials" - it does employ a lot of foreign workers however, but their credentials are decent, you have to prove yourself in the NHS as a junior grade doctor for a year before you can practice as a speciality doctor, and the NHS has one of the strictest revalidation and continuous development requirements in the world.
The UK is one of the main destinations for foreign medical staff, and we are also one of the main
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I guess everyone involved in providing food, clothing, shelter, education, transportation, telecommunications and everything else people need should all be working without profit too.
Consumers can see which grocery store gives them a better deal, so free-market competition is the best way to distribute food.
Consumers are not able to judge the value of medical services and usually do not pay directly. Free markets can't function with opaque pricing and information asymmetry.
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I guess everyone involved in providing food, clothing, shelter, education, transportation, telecommunications and everything else people need should all be working without profit too.
The thing about markets is that if you have a perfect market, no-one makes any profit: that's a basic tenet of capitalism. Where you see profit, there is an imperfect market and the greater the profit, the greater degree of imperfection.
The market in food is not ideal, but the margins are actually pretty low. This is partly because there are a lot of suppliers, but also because food is - to a first approximation - fungible. If the price of beef goes up, you switch to pork. If Cheerios are expensive, you swi
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There's profit and then there's robbery. Profit is when you make 20 points on a sale. Robbery is when you make 10,000 points on a sale. For example, explain why $12 worth of a common generic drug and a plastic injector patented in the '70s should sell for $800.
Or, for another example, a canvas sling very similar to an item that sells for under $20 at Walmart should be billed at $135.
Why is it that if Jiffy lube tried to bill you separately for the actual oil used 6 months to a year after your visit, they wo
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For example, explain why $12 worth of a common generic drug and a plastic injector patented in the '70s should sell for $800.
That's easy to explain. The government has granted an effective monopoly on that item by requiring an enormously expensive approval process and forbidding anyone who hasn't gone through the approval process from bringing a competing product to market.
The approval process is well intentioned. Lots of people would be complaining very loudly if the government didn't protect them from scammers selling unsafe products, but it drives costs way up and it provides a moat around profits for the few who pay the cost
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Bullshit. Medical litigation adds 2 - 3 percent on to the costs of medical care. And most of it is not actual money paid out but "defensive medicine" which is doctors running extra tests to make sure it is what they think it is (some people consider this a "bad thing". Those people are idiots)
Re: Needs the NHS. (Score:2)
Re:Needs the NHS. (Score:5, Insightful)
While, for some reason, about 90% of the population would prefer that, for whatever reason the other ten percent literally lose their god damned minds at the mere whisper of it and start screaming about communism and socialism and the destruction of the entire American way of life. Because if literally any single aspect of our society stopped being about profit, we'd all die off within a generation. "What would the insurance companies do?" I dunno, maybe not send their fucking salesman to exotic locations for "business meetings" four times a year at the cost of millions of dollars?
Everything about our healthcare is driven by profit. Increase profit at all costs. The whining about the government setting up death panels if we went to a reasonable healthcare system is especially galling. The insurance companies hire entire departments to literally do exactly the same thing in the name of keeping costs down and increasing earning potential. It's fucking disgusting, but it's apparently the bed we've made.
insurance companies are force by ACA to cover any (Score:2)
insurance companies are force by ACA to cover any one and cover an big list of things
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insurance companies are force by ACA to cover any one and cover an big list of things
Yep. Because before that, the insurance companies would simply say "that's not covered" to hospital bills, knowing that most sick people don't have the energy or the money to sue them.
Turns out that an insurance company can make a lot of profit by taking peoples' premiums, and then not paying their bills.
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All insurance is this way, especially for profit insurance companies. The standard business model, like any business is increase revenues and decrease expenses. So raise premiums and pay for fewer claims.
We spent a year in grad school trying to get health insurance for us, as opposed to just on-campus clinic, given that we were "employees". Finally everyone votes on it, we get signed up, and we're dropped by the insurance company one year later, no more insurance, The reason? One family had a baby with
Re: insurance companies are force by ACA to cover (Score:2)
Most are also organized as nonprofits. At least the big ones in the northeast are.
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One political party has worked very hard to make the word socialism into an insult or taboo that cannot even be uttered. Meanwhile the people who vote for the party pay thousands of dollars a year in premiums or have no benefits at all. The one thing I can give Trump credit for was trying to allow the government to negotiate drug prices. But lobbyists quickly killed that idea.
"Socialism!" [Re:Needs the NHS.] (Score:2)
...for whatever reason the other ten percent literally lose their god damned minds at the mere whisper of it and start screaming about communism and socialism and the destruction of the entire American way of life.
One political party has worked very hard to make the word socialism into an insult or taboo that cannot even be uttered.
And this technique backfired big time. By labeling any action by the government that benefits the citizens "socialism!", they trained the younger generation to believe that the word "socialism" meant "a government that benefits the people."
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But the governments just called these "social programs", and in other countries some parties were called "social democrats", but no no no, those on the right insist that if something has the word "social" in it then it's full blow Soviet style Socialism! And just because Bernie Sanders says he's socialist doesn't mean that it's really true, and it also doesn't mean that everyone in the Democratic party is also a socialist through association. There's been a change in the last decade where the "liberal" i
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Christ you're either dumb or just plain thick headed. You know those hell hole socialist countries like Canada and most of continental Europe? See how far in the propaganda you are? I mention socialized medicine and you're spouting off about Stalin and Chairman Mao.
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You know those hell hole socialist countries like Canada and most of continental Europe?
Canada and EU members are capitalist countries with market economies.
Providing healthcare to citizens does not make a country "socialist". The US government spends more on Medicare, Medicaid, and the VA than most European governments spend to provide healthcare to 100% of their citizens. So if Europe is "socialist," then so is America.
Actual socialism is a failed economic model that impoverished a billion people. It is baffling why progressives tarnish themselves by adopting that label for policies that
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Why do you think socialism is at odds with a market economy? Things like credit unions and co-ops, which are socialist organizations, work well in a market economy.
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It’s set up to fail so one party can yell about how bad the government runs things. Well yes if you purposely cut funding what did you expect?
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Ok, and implementing national healthcare would solve that?
I don't care who's at fault; the government has routinely and consistently proven their incompetence. There's no reason in the world to believe they'll suddenly get better if we give them more money.
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But the government does work well in some cases. The US Postal Service does a good jobs and in the past were self sufficient - thus they became an enemy of the anti-government types in and they made sure it would do badly by putting an anti-government kook in charge of it. Also the Veterans Administration health care system works great, awesome hospitals, proactive healthcare, hospices, etc. Sure some vets get left out for various reasons and there's a lot of paperwork but they still have a better track
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Sounds like the US staff could do with a free-at-the-point-of-use National Health Service.
Maybe be free at the point of use, but it's still gotta be paid for.
It's easy to be generous with someone else's money.
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Must hurt to be that ignorant huh?
Pretty sure charging every employee 1% tax to cover ALL needed medical / dental bills would more than cover the yearly budget for getting everyone health care.
Oh, and it's cheaper than the employee paying half the premium ( $300-700 if you are lucky and have "cheap" heavily subsidized insurance ) every month, not that anyone would see the extra saved money from both the employee paid premium, or the what the company paid in also on paychecks. We won't get into the $5-10K "
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Pretty sure charging every employee 1% tax to cover ALL needed medical / dental bills
That is absurd. No country in the world is able to provide healthcare with a 1% tax. The OECD average is about 10% of GDP or about 15% of wages.
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The OECD average is about 10% of GDP or about 15% of wages
Cool. That's still less than half of what my employer and I currently pay for my health coverage+out of pocket+Medicare tax. Your point on the OP's 1% is well taken though.
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Sounds like the US staff could do with a free-at-the-point-of-use National Health Service.
Like the one Boris Johnson has destroyed? An article from 6 days ago in the The Guardian: NHS primary care is close to collapse [theguardian.com]
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Naw. USA healthcare system is awesome. [/sarcasm]
Needs less monopoly profit (Score:2)
Sounds like the US staff could do with a free-at-the-point-of-use National Health Service.
That's a general problem, but it sounds even more like the acquisition was for the customer/user data, not for any good or service that the company provided to get all of that juicy customer data. Let the employee purge begin!
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Not really.
Acquisitions, one company buying another, happens all the time in the US defense industry. It is absolutely routine.
Continuation of benefits is also absolutely routine, as is maintenance of salary levels. This is NORMAL.
The only time that salaries and/or benefits are not maintained is when the purpose of the acquisition was to put an annoying competitor out of business. EVEN THEN, usual practice is to keep salaries and benefits in place, because the PEOPLE at the annoying competitor are genera
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Technically, Intuit cannot legally cancel their health care benefits if they are employees. Is Intuit trying to reclassify them all as independent contradctors, or are the Mailchimp employees misunderstanding/exaggerating?
US Healthcare is something... (Score:2)
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Please continue to pay crazy price for it.
If I could not pay for health insurance, I would, but in the U.S. it is made intentionally difficult to do so. I hapen to work in the government so even if I don't want to pay for it, money is taken from my paycheck, and from the taxpayers, and effectively poured down the drain. I never see that money, it doesn't get used to buy what I need or pay my bills, doesn't get put into my savings or retirement, doesn't allow me to go on vacation, and so on. As I said, it's poured down the drain.
It would literally
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Since you sound conservative I'll ask this. Why haven't you found a different employer that will allow you to work without taking offered insurance?
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in the U.S. it is made intentionally difficult to do so.
Also bullshit. All you have to do is not enroll during open enrollment. But I supposed that is harder than just bitching about it on an Internet board.
Unions :P (Score:5, Insightful)
As long as people keep getting told that unions are bad, this sort of shit will keep on happening.
I don't want to get into, or even start an argument about unions in the US, but this is one of those things a union would be good for.
Re: Unions :P (Score:2)
For the people who get in on the ground floor and can stomach the extra layer of bullshit and bureaucracy, yes it's quite good.
For people who don't really like seeing morons promoted over them on seniority rather than competence, and younger workers looking to up their game who chafe at being told, "no you make not try to learn to do X because it's Billy-Bob's job," it's not so good.
Unions in the US are generally the province of people who only bring a warm body to the party, not any particular skill or dri
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As long as people keep getting told that unions are bad
Unions are bad. You should need to band together in a mob and fight. How about instead of screaming unions you instead focus on basic social security instead. My employer goes bankrupt tomorrow, know what happens to my healthcare? Nothing.
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Worker shortages aren't real (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Worker shortages aren't real (Score:4, Informative)
The real shortage is in personnel that is willing to work for less than they need to provide the service. That's always in short supply, just like companies that sell their services for less than they have to pay their workers.
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It's really easy to believe that Mailchimp has too many employees.
Self-control. (Score:2)
Sounds like a good reason to go into business for oneself. At least there you have greater control of your fate, and if you have a good tax planner, lawyer, and accountant one can get some good benefits. Certainly, better than what corporate America hands out.
Intuit wants to drive attrition (Score:3)
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Just bail (Score:3)
There's always more companies that are desperate for talent who will offer you all sorts of benefits. Of course, not forever, only until they got you.
Then it's time to bail again.
It feels like Disney and Star Wars (Score:5, Interesting)
If you buy the company for its assets, you also "buy" its obligations as well.
Health insurance is a yearly commitment. You cannot weasel out, unless you are in real distress (i.e.: in bankruptcy). Otherwise you "bought" all these people, and you have to keep paying, at least until next refresh date.
Why did I say Disney? They bought the rights to Star Wars franchise, but stopped paying authors for their work. The excuse was basically "you cannot make me".
It is sickening to see large companies with literally billions in the bank not paying their very basic obligations. And they know the workers cannot sue them, and the public DAs will not do it either.
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The US could take two lessons from Canada (Score:5, Interesting)
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1-Medicare, Medicaid, Veterans Administration, not sure about tribal lands.
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Medicare, Medicaid, etc. are not anywhere near as comprehensive as Canadian medical coverage, which is universal.
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In Singapore, where I am, if a company is bought by another, or merged with another, your pay and other benefits MUST stay the same or can be higher. They can't be reduced just cos one party hard less benefits/pay for it's employees.
I recently learnt this, when I was taking a course.
Seems like it is a good idea, so you don't suddenly get a pay cut or find that certain benefits just disappeared. Too bad it seems not all other countries have similar regulations.
This really exposes what kind of company (Score:3)
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If I worked at a company that got bought by Intuit, that would be my sign to look for another job.
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Hey now. Intuit pays the government a lot of money so you use their paid services instead of the free one offered by said government.
Welcome (Score:3)
to corporate America, taking a page out of Scrooges playbook.
Intuit changing the name of the product (Score:2)
I heard they're changing it from "MailChimp" to "MailChump".
Two issues here (Score:2)
1) How does Intuit's pay structure compare with Mailchimp's? This could be a morale problem for Intuit if 'chimp employees pay is higher and they are brought straight across.
B) What ever happened to 'portable' healthcare coverage that the ACA promised? Where employers would pay us cash and we could go out and buy a policy that suits each individual* and keep it through various employers for the rest of our lives.
*I'll take the cheaper coverage without the gender reassignment surgery add-on.
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B) What ever happened to 'portable' healthcare coverage that the ACA promised? Where employers would pay us cash and we could go out and buy a policy that suits each individual* and keep it through various employers for the rest of our lives.
There's no good insurance policy in the exchanges. Even the most expensive ones force you to pay a large percentage of health care costs out of pocket. If you have a $200k medical bill, you might end up paying $120k. What good is the insurance in that case?
Nor surprised. Intuit has been sketch for years. (Score:2)
Years ago they screwed me when they slowly walked back features. By the time I realized what they were doing, it was too late. I went from a perfectly working version of quickbooks including the ability to send invoices via email freely, to requiring me to subscribe to a paid service to keep the features I paid for. Since they change the database file at every update, I was screwed. If I wanted to get the feature I paid for back, I'd have to wipe and reinstall, disable updates, and oh, by the way hand key e
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Good - Mailchimp is a spammy bunch of idiots (Score:4, Insightful)
Mailchimp is a spam for hire group, and ignores all complaints. Their benefits should be cut to zero (along with their salary).
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I've had companies be bought by others before, and they make the insurance transition seamless. In one case the pharmacy already had my new card.
This is sloppy work even if it is retroactive.
Likely not intentional.. (Score:5, Interesting)
Could this even be legal? (Score:2)
Could it even be legal under labor law to terminate insurance coverage without informing the employee? If it is as bad as they say I would expect a class-action lawsuit.
This s crewed up (Score:2)
Sure, companies around the world will offer some extra things like private doctors, or maybe additioal dental plans. But there is always, always a good-enough basic healt benefit package, because it would just be absurd and inhumane to not have that.
What a shithole country. (Score:2)
And company.
Intuit appears to be a better company (Score:5, Interesting)
When companies merge there bound to be some changes and layoffs. And your pet benefit may get cut, so get over it. I am pretty sure that Intuit has comprehensive healthcare and other benefits as pretty much any large technology company.
If the employees are not happy with the benefits and compensation, they are free to find another company to employ them. They really can't tell the founders of private company to sell or not to sell it to the Intuit.
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Intuit is a garbage company that treats its customers like shit. Fuck Intuit, I hope Intuit dies in a fire. Not surprised they treat employees shitty too.
Part of being a good company is communicating with Employees. A good company does not cancel your insurance before you have an alternative. A good company communicates the situation and makes sure Employees are informed of changes before those changes happen. A garbage company keeps you in the dark, cancels your insurance, and takes its time do anythi
Whoda thunk? (Score:2)
Just drive slow.... (Score:2)
If you want a taste of this just drive slow for a few days. Whatever the speed limit do 5 or 10 less. You'll find this weird thing where you actually sometimes arrive earlier. You'll run into all kinds of green lights.
You'll start to notice that most people are extremely hard on the throttle to start and then even though there's a red light clearly visible they will pull out from behind you and floor it up to the red light. Then they slam on the brakes hard.
On longer trips what you'll find is that you would
Re:Welcome to the real world (Score:5, Insightful)
Hey welcome to the US
FTFY.
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Employees don't control whether the company turns a profit. Intuit already paid $12 billion for Mailchimp. They can afford to transition the 1,000 employees gracefully while they're at it. It would be a tiny fraction of a tenth of a percent of what they already paid.
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Republicans were cancelling people before Gen Z was even born. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]