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Leaked Surface Pro 8 Specs Include Thunderbolt Ports and a 120 Hz Screen (arstechnica.com) 30

Posted by msmash from the shape-of-things-to-come dept.
Just days ahead of Microsoft's next Surface hardware event, Twitter user @Shadlow_Leak has posted what appears to be a leaked retail listing showing some key specs of a new Surface Pro device. From a report: According to the listing, the new convertible tablet appears to ditch USB-C and USB-A ports in favor of a pair of Thunderbolt 4 ports, and it also adds 11th-gen Intel Core processors, a 13-inch screen with a 120 Hz refresh rate, and a user-replaceable SSD like the ones in some other current Surface devices. The renders show a Surface with a design similar to the current Surface Pro 7, just with a notably larger screen and smaller bezels than the current Surface Pro 7. Take this with a larger grain of salt the "screens" in these press renders are often superimposed on the devices after the fact, and they've been known to get the screen size wrong. Still, a larger screen with smaller bezels lines up with other Surface Pro 8 rumors that have been circulating, as well as general design trends in the PC industry.
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Leaked Surface Pro 8 Specs Include Thunderbolt Ports and a 120 Hz Screen

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  • Just as Apple decides to go with USB-C, MS allegedly decides to use thunderbolt.

    • Re:So much for standardization (Score:5, Informative)

      by DrSpock11 ( 993950 ) on Monday September 20, 2021 @12:26PM (#61814089)

      According to PC Mag [pcmag.com], Thunderbolt 4 is a USB-C connector just with additional features. Not sure why the summary indicates they "ditched" USB-C.

      • Either for click-bait or because the reporter was clueless.

        I however, did not know they were compatible so thanks for the info.

      • Quiz: How do you increase reader engagement for posts submitted to Slashdot?
        Answer: Post a detail that, from a semantic perspective, is slightly incorrect. You'll have hundreds of readers commenting on how you've made a mistake.

    • Thunderbolt is the appropriate choice for a device like the Surface Pro. Thunderbolt 4 will allow for USB4 support whereas the opposite is not true. Also the TB4 connector is physically the same connector as USB-C

      • Re: (Score:2)

        by Rhipf ( 525263 )

        Thunderbolt 4 will allow for USB4 support whereas the opposite is not true

        How will this matter if the Surface doesn't already have USB4 built-in? It isn't like you will be able to just pop in an Intel processor with USB4 support when they ship.
        Also, once USB4 does ship in Intel processors how do you know that they won't support Thunderbolt 4?*

        I think you would have been better off saying that Thunderbolt is a better connector option because the Intel processor used for this Surface has Thunderbolt capability built-in (either in the CPU itself or in the chipset I'm not sure which

        • How will this matter if the Surface doesn't already have USB4 built-in?

          The previous version, Thunderbolt 3 supported USB4 [appleinsider.com].

          It isn't like you will be able to just pop in an Intel processor with USB4 support when they ship.

          Er what? Thunderbolt 3 is essentially USB4 [wikipedia.org]: "The USB4 specification was released on 29 August 2019 by USB Implementers Forum, based on the Thunderbolt 3 protocol specification." This is Thunderbolt 4

          Also, once USB4 does ship in Intel processors how do you know that they won't support Thunderbolt 4?*

          1) Are you seriously suggesting that Intel who designed Thunderbolt 4 won't support it on Intel processors? 2) Considering they have already said they would [intel.com]: "These ports are found on PCs with 11th Gen Intel® Core mobile processors, or systems that are eq

    • Re:So much for standardization (Score:5, Informative)

      by ShanghaiBill ( 739463 ) on Monday September 20, 2021 @12:35PM (#61814125)

      Just as Apple decides to go with USB-C, MS allegedly decides to use thunderbolt.

      Apple's USB-C ports are also Thunderbolt ports.

      Thunderbolt-4 uses a USB-C connector and is a proper superset of USB-C.

      So there is no way to "ditch" USB-C while adopting Thunderbolt-4.

  • adds 11th-gen Intel Core processors

    Imagine a Beowulf cluster of these!

    Huh, 2021 already? Never mind — the hardware is there already in everybody's pocket. With the doubling every 1.5-2 years, today's computing devices are, at least, 1024 times more powerful, than in 2000 [wikipedia.org].

    Too bad the software continues to suck...

  • Great. (Score:1)

    by suss ( 158993 )

    How long until this overpriced toy drops from the Windows 11/12/13 support list, for reasons only known to microsoft?

  • 2 ports and 1 is for power is to low!

    • This is for an ultraportable, if you need more ports then you're likely at a desk and would have a thunderbolt dock.

    • I don't see anything that says they've ditched the Surface charging connector so I imagine it is sticking around here, although the ability to also charge through the TB4 ports would be a nice touch.

      Despite being proprietary the surface power connector is quite nice, wish it a standard that more laptops would use. USB-C is nice but prretty fragile for a laptop if it gets pulled.

      • My SP7 can charge through its USB-C connector as well as the surface power connector. I would be surprised if they ditched that functionality. I don't think it is advertised anywhere that it can be used this way, I just tried it with my old Pixelbook charger and it worked.

    • 2 ports and 1 is for power is to low!

      What's your use case? If you're dragging gadgets and dongles around you bought the wrong device. If you're at a desk, use the power port for a combined docking station / charger. Previous surface devices have been perfectly function with just a single USB port.

  • Will it still have the Surface Connect port?

    Seems superfluous if we already have Thunderbolt 4, but it's nice to have an additional charging port that happens to also be a docking port.

  • I'm sure all the comments here will be non-biased, and won't have already come to the conclusion of how terrible it is because of who made it.

    • The little experience I had with Surfaces (two at our office) wasn't great, but mainly just seemed to be pretty shoddy quality.

      • Re: (Score:2)

        by Cederic ( 9623 )

        My Surface suffered heat damage to the screen and was replaced under warranty. The replacement has been to 40 countries on six continents and is still doing just fine.

        The keyboard only made it to Australia. The Microsoft store in Sydney generously replaced it for free when it broke. It didn't occur to me until I was in New Zealand that its failure may have been linked to the vodka I was enjoying in Sydney.

        So quality level? As my sole computer for several months and a second device for a lot longer, it's bee

      • That's what warranty is for, and in my case they had a new device at my door within 2 days.

  • Commonly available crap hardware best left on the boat from China, only marked up 1000 times the cost ...
    Built-in Spyware ...
    Engineered Failure Date ...
    Itty Bitty Cannot be Seen with the Lights On display screen ...
    Non replaceable batteries ...

    In other words, a Barnum special to get the fools to part with their money.

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by cusco ( 717999 )

      I think you're confused, TFS is about the MS Surface tablet, not the latest iToy.

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