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Professors From 7 US Colleges, Including MIT and Stanford, Have Teamed Up To Design a Cryptocurrency Capable Of Processing Thousands of Transactions a Second (fortune.com) 109

Some of the brightest minds in America are pooling their brain power to create a cryptocurrency that's designed to do what Bitcoin has proved incapable of: processing thousands of transactions a second. From a report: Professors from seven U.S. colleges including the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Stanford University and University of California, Berkeley have teamed up to create a digital currency that they hope can achieve speeds Bitcoin users can only dream of without compromising on its core tenant of decentralization. The Unit-e, as the virtual currency is called, is the first initiative of Distributed Technology Research, a non-profit foundation formed by the academics with backing from hedge fund Pantera Capital Management LP to develop decentralized technologies.

Bitcoin is the original cryptocurrency and the first payment network to allow parties to transact directly without needing to trust each another or to rely on a central authority. Yet, while it has built a following among developers, anarchists and speculators, mainstream adoption remains elusive. That's in no small part the product of its design, where inbuilt restrictions have constrained its performance and scalability and, as a result, reduced its usefulness as an everyday unit of payment, DTR said in a research paper. The academics are designing a virtual coin they expect will be able to process transactions faster than even Visa.

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  • What? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by 110010001000 ( 697113 ) on Thursday January 17, 2019 @01:29PM (#57977800) Homepage Journal
    "non-profit foundation formed by the academics with backing from hedge fund Pantera Capital Management LP"

    Right. Non-profit.
    • "non-profit foundation formed by the academics with backing from hedge fund Pantera Capital Management LP"

      Right. Non-profit.

      They won't be holding any pre-mined coins. Nope. Not a one.

      • "non-profit foundation formed by the academics with backing from hedge fund Pantera Capital Management LP"

        Right. Non-profit.

        They won't be holding any pre-mined coins. Nope. Not a one.

        Serious question: why wouldn't a bank, which primarily wants to use its blockchain to make secure transactions, start out by loading its network with all the "coins" it wants? The bank, I would have expected, does NOT want new coins in the system. It just wants to use the coins as tokens of data(actual funds) transfers.

        • That's how the venezuelan petro is supposed to work. No idea if it does
          • That's how the venezuelan petro is supposed to work. No idea if it does

            One could probably make an educated guess based on how well everything else in the Venezuelan economy works.

  • by mysidia ( 191772 ) on Thursday January 17, 2019 @01:36PM (#57977818)

    Don't get me wrong.... its a fun experiment to try and come up with new experimental types of blockchains and transactional systems.

    But Bitcoin already has a pragmatic solution called the Lightning Network [lightning.network] that uses second-layer networks allowing wallets to safely transact off the chain, resulting in extremely high scalability and low fees --- as a result it is not even limited to "Thousands of transactions per second".... indeed to be a competitor in payment processing, Millions of Transactions per Second may be required ---
    so when you think of scaling; just making a native blockchain capable of thousands of TPS sounds impressive at first, at first, But its really not much in the grand scheme of things --- when you're talking about transitioning from experiment to real-world use.

    Ultimately, layering additional peer-to-peer networks with certain safeguards and no lower bound that says a transaction takes at least X minutes, is a smart approach.

    • by K. S. Kyosuke ( 729550 ) on Thursday January 17, 2019 @01:39PM (#57977832)

      But Bitcoin already has a pragmatic solution called the Lightning Network [lightning.network] that uses second-layer networks allowing wallets to safely transact off the chain

      So the solution to the low number of transactions per second on the blockchain is...to *not* use the blockchain?

      • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 17, 2019 @01:49PM (#57977880)

        Lightning does use the blockchain, but it uses it as a settlement layer which makes a lot more sense than storing everyone's coffee payments on each others computers.

        • by Anonymous Coward

          Yeah, that's bullshit.

          Lightning is an exchange. An unregulated bank. The "settlement layer" is just their internal processing system.

          They'll be hacked or exit scammed just like all the others.

      • by jythie ( 914043 ) on Thursday January 17, 2019 @02:08PM (#57977950)
        Amazing how people end up recreating the same solutions they were trying to move away from, isn't it?
    • by bill_mcgonigle ( 4333 ) * on Thursday January 17, 2019 @01:50PM (#57977884) Homepage Journal

      Lightning doesn't route - it bases its functionality on open problems in computing. Spend a hour (if you must watch at 1X) on these two to get a good summary of its problems:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]

    • It's also worth mentioning that LN enables sharding of the blockchain itself, since it enables atomic swapping of currencies. Let's say in the near future 1 million computers are willing to be a node (blockchain node, not LN node) for a cryptocurrency. If they all stored the same blockchain, that may be more redundancy and security than is necessary. So Bitcoin could fork into say 1000 separate blockchains (similar to Bitcoin Gold and Bitcoin Cash but on a much greater scale). Then 1000 blockchains each ge
      • by Anonymous Coward

        You've re-invented sidechains.

    • Thousands per second is low multiples of the number of seconds in a day x 1000, say, 2000, or 172,8000,000 transactions a day.

      Which is a lot but woefully inadequate for the world in general.

    • While I can't comment on the lightning side, my impression was the same : if you want to design a Bitcoin that actually scales, you'll need much more than thousands of transactions per second.
  • Would I be able to pay with Unit-e to purchase Unity-engine based games on my Unity desktop?

  • Ripple is already the most-used cryptocurrency for cross-border payments (DAG-based) with years of R&D and partnerships with major banks and corporations around the world.

    It'll be a steep hill to climb to get something out of the Ivory Tower to compete. This would have been cutting edge six years ago, though.

    • by JaredOfEuropa ( 526365 ) on Thursday January 17, 2019 @02:25PM (#57978034) Journal
      Ripple has some serious issues, for instance the company and founders still holding over half of the total coins, and they have the ability to freeze the network or an individual account. Ripple isn't fully decentralized; parts of it are firmly under control of Ripple Labs. [ripple.com]

      Many banks have used Ripple, but in most cases the purpose was to experiment, with Ripple being a convenient mechanism to manage transactions and settlement outside of the banks' own bloated and antiquated systems which lend themselves poorly to experimentation.
    • Ripple is already the most-used cryptocurrency for cross-border payments

      Are you sure?

  • Get in NOW! (Score:1, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward

    I'm selling ALL my bitcoin, gold bullion and Infowars.com shares to buy in now, and anyone who isn't a libtard should do the same. This is a guaranteed investment, backed by MIT, Slashdot and the full force of the US military.

  • Visa alone is capable of processing 56,000 transactions per second.
  • "Tennant"? (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 17, 2019 @02:19PM (#57978006)

    "without compromising on its core tenant of decentralization"

    Shouldn't that be "tenet" or is my English not as good as I think it is?

    • Dang! Wasn't signed in, so I don't get credit for this (my first comment it quite a while).
      • Why would WANT credit for pointlessly being a dick?

        You obviously understood what was meant, as you were able to fill in the correction yourself and extract the proper meaning.

        Unless you are *actually confused* about what someone said/typed, pointing out their grammar/spelling mistakes is just an attempt to make yourself feel superior to a random stranger.

        In short, it makes YOU a dick!

        • by Anonymous Coward

          So, you propose we let people continue to misuse the language without helpfully correcting them? That sounds pretty dickish to me.

          As for why I would want credit, it's more about auditing my own contributions (or lack thereof to Slashdot). If I'm signed-in, I have a record of all my comments.

          Hope your day improves, as you seem to be a bit irritable at the moment.

        • Not pointless. Stop encouraging the world to be morons.

      • Don't worry, you can still get credit for exemplifying Muphry's Law [wikipedia.org]. (Or perhaps there's an obscure reference to a Doctor Who actor that I don't get.)
  • by swillden ( 191260 ) <shawn-ds@willden.org> on Thursday January 17, 2019 @02:23PM (#57978026) Journal

    When I read the summary I wondered whether the researchers involved had a track record of interesting work in this area, or in cryptography more generally. It took some searching but I found the list of names here: https://dtr.org/research/#rese... [dtr.org].

    FWIW, neither I nor my academic cryptographer friends immediately recognized any of these people. I do see that Andrew Miller is on the ZCash board, which gives him some credibility in my book.

    That I don't recognize them doesn't mean that much, but I'd be more inclined to follow this work closely if it were done by people with a solid track record in the space. Time will tell.

  • it sounds like it's just something a bunch of guys want to do. They're smart guys, so maybe they'll do it, but they need to solve not just speed but power usage. Water & Electricity are both heavily subsidized. When you start using a ton of power and produce basically nothing for the local communities they're gonna notice. Bitcoin miners were starting get draw flack until the crash happened and slowed everything down.
  • Just what we needed. Now all of Earth's problems are solved.

  • The Red Belly blockchain is reported to handle 600,000 transaction per second. It was developed at the University of Sydney's school of information technologies.

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