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YouTube CEO: Facebook Should 'Get Back To Baby Pictures' (cnet.com) 119

YouTube CEO Susan Wojcicki won't divulge her biggest fear about competing with Facebook, but she will give them some free advice. From a report: "They should get back to baby pictures," Wojcicki said Monday at the Code Media conference in Huntington Beach, California. Video has been an obsession for Facebook, as it tries to swipe the most advertising dollars migrating off television before YouTube can get them. Facebook has been aggressively advancing the number of clips and live streams that bubble up to the top of your News Feed and has rolled out a central hub for TV-like programming called Watch. "You always have to take competition seriously. You don't win by looking backwards; you win by looking at your customers and looking forward," she said.

YouTube CEO: Facebook Should 'Get Back To Baby Pictures'

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  • by Anonymous Coward

    The one thing that makes FB not worth the time as a video platform are the mid-roll ads. With YT, $10, and I don't worry about ads, or just download what I want to watch for when I'm out camping and want to watch something before crashing. FB, a 10 second video can have 30 second ads in it, making it all but unwatchable, with zero skip buttons. Because of this, coupled with the fact that almost everything on FB is a video (most static pictures have been turned into looping vids even), it is too much of a

    • The one thing that makes FB not worth the time as a video platform are the mid-roll ads. With YT, $10, and I don't worry about ads, or just download what I want to watch for when I'm out camping and want to watch something before crashing. FB, a 10 second video can have 30 second ads in it, making it all but unwatchable, with zero skip buttons. Because of this, coupled with the fact that almost everything on FB is a video (most static pictures have been turned into looping vids even), it is too much of a pain to bother with for any meaningful content.

      Dear Facebook User,

      thank you for your valuable feedback. We will now collect $10 off you each month to provide videos without ads. You don't even need to give us your cardnumber, security code, or any other identifying numbers, we know them all already.

      Have a good day and thank you for using Facebook

      • You're using the information I provided to bill me?

        I didn't think you'd be THAT gullible...

        • by Anonymous Coward

          Don't worry, we know the real ones.

          We aren't THAT gullible.

          • Really? Umm... could you help me out, the double and triple lives I live kinda caught up to me ... care to tell me which one was the real one?

        • You're using the information I provided to bill me?

          I didn't think you'd be THAT gullible...

          Facebook is a bit like Santa Clause. He knows when you are sleeping, he knows when you're awake, he knows if you've been bad or good, so be good for goodness sake. Facebook knows everything about you.

          In fact the only difference is Facebook doesn't leave you presents and doesn't wear a red suit.

    • But if I am willing to take the ads, Why cant I stop You Tube from bugging me to buy Red all the time.

    • There are adblockers for YouTube, there will be for Facebook once it gets traction. Either that or we'll just be waiting for the next platform.

  • I wonder if she has fired herself yet? Clearly such sexist comments will not stand! :D

    Susan Wojicicki said that women find “geeky male industries” (as opposed to “social industries”) “not very interesting” and Sundar cites research on gender differences.
    https://twitter.com/jamesadamo... [twitter.com]

    • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 13, 2018 @10:57AM (#56115823)

      She is the wrong kind of sacrificial goat for this days political witch hunt. If she had a penis and was white though we could all grab some pitch forks and torches.

      Don't worry, my political blood calendar indicates that we should be back to using women as sacrifices in roughly 8 years time or so +/- 2 years. It is about the amount of time a generation grows up watching one particular group being constantly heckled and turns on the hecklers like rabbid attack dogs.

    • *gasp* She didn't!

      Wow, if a man had said that, I bet he'd be fired by now.

    • Susan Wojicicki said that women find "geeky male industries" (as opposed to "social industries") "not very interesting"

      Yeah no that's not what she said. Try reading the thing being referred to.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 13, 2018 @10:44AM (#56115757)

    YouTube should get back to USER driven content.

    Maybe a little healthy competition can remind them of what built them up in the first place.

    • trying to cater to little kids and telling the other 90% of the world to screw off is their first mistake
    • by Snufu ( 1049644 )

      Users and content producers should stop donating their personal resources to private, centrally controlled, for-profit distribution platforms.

      The dream of internet video is complete freedom (as in speech) of distribution and consumption with all profit being received by the creator. No middleman taking the money, no gatekeeper controlling speech, no advertiser polluting the medium.

  • by Bohnanza ( 523456 ) on Tuesday February 13, 2018 @10:48AM (#56115773)
    ...we get videos of pictures of text.
  • Here's what I mean: -

    They *force* ads which isn't necessarily bad. What I loathe are the their numbers. Ads are jus to too many.

    YouTube's computer interface is just unfriendly. Why do I have to lose visual of playing video simply because I have chosen to read through comments or browse through related video?

    Apparently, these small user interface tweaks aren't obvious to my learned and capable friends at YouTube. Sad!

    • I only preview videos in the youtube interface. Then I download them (with YouTube Downloader HD) and actually watch them. This is the only way I can watch some content, because embedded VLC appears over the top of flash video. If I click, the video plays over the video. Jay Leno's Garage is an example. I literally cannot watch it without downloading it.

  • by Anonymous Coward

    Instead of all those suicide videos.

  • by CohibaVancouver ( 864662 ) on Tuesday February 13, 2018 @10:54AM (#56115809)
    YouTube is superior for video-sharing for three reasons -

    1) You don't need to have a YouTube account to watch videos. I can send my (77-year-old) dad a YouTube link and he can just watch it. While this is possible with Facebook, it's a pain and you're constantly told to sign up.

    2) Facebook sticks ads in the middle of videos. I suppose YouTube could do this sooner or later, but right now they don't.

    3) Facebook search is hot garbage. With YouTube I can pretty much find whatever I'm looking for fairly easily.

    One day I need someone to explain to me what Viemo is for, though.
    • by doconnor ( 134648 ) on Tuesday February 13, 2018 @11:22AM (#56115965) Homepage

      I see ads in the middle of YouTube videos all the time, probably about one every 10 minutes.

    • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

      by sinij ( 911942 )
      Facebook was made intentionally unusable on any level for someone not logged in into Facebook. YouTube works without logging in.

      As people abandoning FB, this closeness will accelerate the decline.
    • by Trogre ( 513942 )

      2) Facebook sticks ads in the middle of videos. I suppose YouTube could do this sooner or later, but right now they don't.

      WHERE DO YOU LIVE?!

      I want to know what locale does not yet have YouTube inline video advertising.

      The rest of us have had it for years. Well, before we all installed adblockers, that is.

  • of becoming something for old people. The moment that happens they're dead, since nobody like to be associated with old people. Heck, there's a meme [google.com] about it.

    I don't think Facebook the company is at any risk, they're big enough to buy up any hip new competitors. But the platform might go kaputsky; which would suck for anybody in charge of that platform.
    • That's the sad part: even if Facebook the Platform dies, Facebook the Evil Empire will persist and turn promising new up and comers into data snooping suckfests.
    • by swb ( 14022 )

      Isn't that the lesson of Snapchat? Kids already avoid Facebook because mom and dad and grandma and grandpa are all over it (and ranting about political shit they don't care about).

      • They don't care about mom and dad ranting over politics, but they care about mom and dad being on the platform. Since you can't "pretend-friend" someone and you can't simply not "friend" your parents, the platform is ultimately worthless to any teenager.

  • >> Facebook Should 'Get Back To Baby Pictures'

    To be fair, Facebook's other strong suit is crazy political screeds coupled with wild accusations.

    In any case, if Facebook wants to do video, as long as their service hits their core Boomer and mom demographic they should do fine (large buttons, "cat ear" filters, heart overlays, etc.). The rest of us are fine with non-Facebook services.
  • We sure as fuck are fed up with cat videos and other feelgood crap. And if we wanted corporate bullshit that has been whitewashed and sanitized to be politically correct and inoffensive, we could as well stay with TV.

    Lady, if you keep killing the ones making content that people actually want to watch by demonetizing them, you'll have to deal with these people moving to other platforms. It is already happening. What still keeps some people from simply dumping YouTube for something where they don't have to ju

  • by luther349 ( 645380 ) on Tuesday February 13, 2018 @11:58AM (#56116265)
    youtube the company thats burned cash sense day 1. the company that gone from upload anything short of porn and beheading to censoring everything but people selling goods. the company advertisers run away from because despite all the attempts to censer the sites still 90% garbage uploads. the site where every channel begs you to hand them money on every video. the company that lets its own users abuse the dmca leading to massive issues with trolls and false flags. and they wanna talk shit about someone else.
  • by William Baric ( 256345 ) on Tuesday February 13, 2018 @12:07PM (#56116325)

    Maybe Facebook should get back to baby pictures, but then YouTube should get back to cat videos. Both platforms are against the free expression of ideas, and both are trying to influence politics. To me, allowing big corporations to control ideas and politics is part of fascism.

  • 'Social media' is not really good for anyone, except in small doses. Spend more time being actually social with people, instead of avoiding them, and less time on the internet pretending to be 'social'.
  • When we are increasingly barraged by misinformation, I'd rather google be a reliable source for good information rather than a conduit for even more political garbage videos.
  • I have my own issues with Youtube, but it's far and away the most competent video streaming site even with its flaws. Facebook's video controls are hot steaming dog puke compared to Youtube. The UI is atrociously designed, and laggy beyond compare. And my potato may be outdated, but I've got eight cores and sixteen gigs, there's no excuses for this kind of nonsense. (Youtube is plenty responsive.)

  • by randomErr ( 172078 ) <ervin.kosch @ g m a i l.com> on Tuesday February 13, 2018 @01:34PM (#56117047) Journal

    People got tired of dealing with all the ads and unrelated news on Facebook. The former FB users, to a lesser degree YouTube, have ran to mostly closed off micro-networks like Telegram, Discord, Amino, and Quidd.

  • but they got live TONS music streaming vs YT. I use to stream my icecast audio stream through YT using this info http://akos.me/2017/stream-ice... [akos.me] but there were constant stream drops from my server to YT and was not reliable.

  • And YouTube should go back to being a dating site.

  • Here's all facebook needs to do: make separate timelines for user content and page content.

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