Goodbye Cruel Word 565
theodp writes "The problem with Microsoft Word, writes the NYT's Virginia Heffernan, is that 'I always feel as if I'm taking an essay test.' Seeking to break free of the tyranny of Microsoft Word, Heffernan takes a look at Scrivener and the oh-so-retro WriteRoom, which she and others feel jibe better with the way writers think. 'The new writing programs encourage a writerly restart. You may even relearn the green-lighted alphabet, adjust your preference for long or short sentences, opt afresh for action over description. Renewal becomes heady: in WriteRoom's gloom is man's power to create something from nothing, to wrest form from formlessness. Let's just say it: It's biblical. And come on, ye writers, do you want to be a little Word drip writing 603 words in Palatino with regulation margins? Or do you want to be a Creator?'"
The best tools stay out of the way... (Score:5, Insightful)
I used to think that the reality of the situation was that you really could not have a professional class word processing application that does all things that professional writers need used by the same audience that merely wants to write school reports or letters to friends. However, it is all in the interface and Pages [apple.com] from Apple has shown that many of the "professional" features in word processing have to do with page layout or formatting issues as well as integrating not just text and fonts, but also images. Fundamentally the issue with interfaces is not providing features piled on features, but figuring out how to craft a tool that people can use to get work done rather than having to learn how to use the tool. I want my word processing environment to simply let me craft written word and images into a form that allows me to communicate my intent to the audience without getting in the way or making me learn arcane and occult methods for getting my page numbers to appear just right or getting the text to wrap around an embedded image without constantly having to reformat an entire 80 (or more) page document. Writing my doctoral dissertation in Word back in 2003 was a repeated lesson in pain as every time I changed a single image, the formatting of the entire document would be altered with entire paragraphs seeming to disappear or get hidden outside of margins and I never want to return to that world.
Granted, I still have to return to Word from time to time as Pages is not yet perfect, still needing better integration with Endnote, but it is getting pretty close. The perfect environment would be Pages that can read and edit Adobe Acrobat files along with markup, comments and notes along with full Endnote functionality that would also run on a tablet that takes advantage of gestures...
OpenOffice? (Score:3, Insightful)
OpenOffice is presented similarly, but "feels" different. Like Office 2007 does, only better.
I enjoy writing in OpenOffice more than with MS Word, but that just may be because that which you use often gets familiar, like a favourite pair of shoes...
In my experience ... (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:The best tools stay out of the way... (Score:3, Insightful)
I guess it's difficult to release a perfect Word since there are so many different types of users, yet Microsoft can't release five different versions simply for the sake of avoiding too much confusion. As if all the Vista releases weren't bad enough, five Word releases would make it harder by a large magnitude.
Re:The best tools stay out of the way... (Score:2, Insightful)
Clever reference by Heffernan (Score:5, Insightful)
This was a coffee-out-the-nose moment for me - it's a parody of the very first paragraph of Vladimir Nabokov's Lolita.
Mark Pilgrim said it best a year ago (Score:5, Insightful)
Since 1.0 (Score:5, Insightful)
wp 51 was the apex (Score:1, Insightful)
A writing tool for writers (Score:5, Insightful)
There's something to be said for a writing tool for writers.
First, professional writers need only minimal formatting capability. Formatting is someone else's job. Any formatting done by the author will just interfere with page makeup later. Writers need to be able to insert chapter breaks, and that's about it.
Second, the word processor should not interrupt the flow of writing. Auto-completion is usually not wanted. Spell checking is probably better done after the fact, not during writing.
Third, not losing the text is important. The writer should not have to "save". A word processor which guaranteed it would never lose the text, backed up by continuous remote backup to multiple sites and an insurance policy, would probably have a following among pros.
There are newsroom systems like this, on which reporters compose stories.
The way it works isn't the problem (Score:5, Insightful)
What is so pathetic is that I have ordinary technical documents from the late 50's and 60's that are laid out better, have better graphics, and are still perfectly readable today. While at the same time, a Word document I saved last week either can't be opened, or has all the symbols corrupted.
Brett
Re:The best tools stay out of the way... (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:The best tools stay out of the way... (Score:3, Insightful)
When I want to insert a formula in an OO document, alt-I O F, type in pseudo-Latex, done.
I don't want to have to grab the mouse and hunt around for a widget to click on.
Re:The best tools stay out of the way... (Score:3, Insightful)
They just moved stuff around and rearranged. There is definitely no leaping or bounding in this release.
Re:In my experience ... (Score:2, Insightful)
I consider this a user interface error for exactly that reason. It's two applications masquerading as one.
Zen (Score:4, Insightful)
"Curse these personal computers!" cried the novice in anger, "To make them do anything I must use three or even four editing programs. This is truly intolerable!"
The master programmer stared at the novice. "And what would you do to remedy this state of affairs?" he asked.
The novice thought for a moment. "I will design a new editing program," he said, "a program that will replace all these others."
Suddenly the master struck the novice on the side of his head.
"What did you do that for?" exclaimed the surprised novice.
"I have no wish to learn another editing program," said the master.
And suddenly the novice was enlightened.
-- from "The Zen of Programming" by Geoffrey James, 1988.
Mellel, DocBook (Score:3, Insightful)
Wow, I feel your pain. After Word couldn't reliably handle a small 100-page thesis I wrote, I switched to Mellel [redlers.com] for the rest of my time as a student. Highly recommended. Does everthing a dissertation needs, is easy to use, looks nice, and is fast.
XMLMind [xmlmind.com] + DocBook might also be a good option.
But please, whatever you do, avoid Word at all cost. It's just not suitable for this kind of writing.
vi for writing (Score:5, Insightful)
Also, a lightweight markup language, like Markdown [wikipedia.org], lets you write normally - but be able to convert your document to XHTML, LaTeX, PDF, etc etc.
The biggest downside to using vim is that, unlike Scrivener, it doesn't give you explicit places to put your notes / outline / etc. So, using vim, you're free to put your notes / etc wherever you want
For drafting, I often using an SCM like git or subversion, but for little snippets and free-writes, etc? They might be written down on paper, they might be in a random note file
It might be worth it to use screen [gnu.org] or vim split screens to reproduce something like Scrivener provides, with designated places on the sides to have notes, etc etc. I think I might try that out
But, come-on, really
I use vim for my writing, because it's what I use all day anyway.
I use git for keeping track of my files / drafts / revisions, because it's what I use all day anyway.
I use markdown for my markup, because it's what I use all day anyway.
Pournelle and WRITE (Score:3, Insightful)
One consistent criticism of most word processors is that they promote presentation over content - programs like WRITE, WriteRoom shift the focus back to content. The same could be said of most text editors, with the choice being a very personal matter.
Re:The best tools stay out of the way... (Score:4, Insightful)
That is redundant, sir.
Re:The best tools stay out of the way... (Score:5, Insightful)
The Ribbon is awful for discoverability, because (a) the tooltips are tiny and hard to read (for some people, like myself), (b) sometimes the tooltips are posisioned over the button labels, so you see the key but no longer recognize the command it performs, and (c) because you have to press the darn Alt key! A menu is something you can open and while it stays open, you can navigate the menu and read the keyboard shortcuts at your own pace. As a readout, it is much clearer and more convenient.
Then there's the fact that you cannot customize the ribbon at all. The measly, tiny toolbar MS so graciously allows you to add buttons to is a sorry excuse.
Then the contextual shifting of the ribbon means I can no longer just click a button that I know is always there, almost without looking, since the mouse hand has its relative position memorized. Now I must check the current page first and switch to the one I need - a displacement of sorts. The shifting is visually distracting, too.
MS has repeatedly lied about how the Ribbon supposedly takes less vertical space than the menu and toolbars (not true), and likewise their usability claims are - at the very least - highly subjective.
Re:Hyperlinks, O God hyperlinks (Score:3, Insightful)
I'm so sick of people complaining about all these horrible things Word does to them when it takes about ten seconds to turn all of those features off and get them entirely out of your life. It used to be the stupid Office Assistant, people would bitch and moan for hours and hours and I'd just finally get sick of it, go to their computer, and spend the 10 seconds to turn it off.
If you don't like it: TURN IT OFF! That is all.
Re:Hyperlinks, O God hyperlinks (Score:3, Insightful)
People are still using Word for writing? (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:The best tools stay out of the way... (Score:4, Insightful)
Which ".doc" among the half-dozen incompatible variations Microsoft has hidden under that extension does it default to?
Chris Mattern
WriteRoom is a wonderful program. (Score:1, Insightful)
Writing prose is a fundamentally different process from writing code, if only because code doesn't live on the page. Code lives in it's execution-- compiled and run, beauty emerges. But prose, unless you read it aloud, stays where it's put. It's only ever compiled in the mind of the reader. The cliche is that you write to find out what you think, and when my writing is at its best, it most closely resembles reading, and the words that I write are fresh to me, as if someone else had written them. A tool that lets me "read myself" as simply and unobtrusively as possible is the one I want to use.
(Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't programmers actually do a lot of their thinking on whiteboards?)
The program I use to write has the same level of importance in my mind as the room I'm writing in, or the town I'm living in. None of them are essential to me, and it's easy to waste time worrying about imperfect circumstances-- you need to write the novel even if you're not at MacDowell. But anything that helps me improve my discipline, and WriteRoom certainly does, is a blessing.
Thanks for coding such a wonderful program for writing.
Re:The best tools stay out of the way... (Score:5, Insightful)
Thanks for the credit -- I don't think any OS or toolset gets it right all of the time, and I try to call it on individual cases. There is MS stuff that I like (Visual Studio, for example) and MS stuff that I don't like (Office 2007, obviously).
The specific things I don't like about the Office 2007 UI are:
But they are all largely a matter of personal style. A heavy mouser won't mind the longer key sequences. Somebody desk based with a huge hi-res screen won't miss the real-estate. A right-brain dominant person will be glad to see the back of the menus. There are plenty of people for whom the interface will work just fine. What got me is that 2007 took away my choice. I had to work the way MS chose for me to work -- no, worse, I had to work in the way that a graphic designer in Redmond chose for me to work, and of course they have a visual rather than a verbal mind because that's what makes a good graphic designer. And I bet they have a huge screen. And I bet they prefer the mouse to the keyboard, because the mouse is better at graphics and layouts than the keyboard is. But I am not a graphic designer.
I've been told that there are third-party tools that can fix a lot of the problems I had. But the fact that it needs third-party tools to make the interface acceptable suggests to me that MS got it wrong in the first place. Not wrong in the sense that the interface is wrong for everybody, but wrong in that it assumes everybody works and thinks the same. One size does not fit all.
Re:FUCKING micro$oft games!!!... (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:The best tools stay out of the way... (Score:5, Insightful)
Hint: if you have to tell people how discoverable it is, it isn't.
Re:The best tools stay out of the way... (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:The best tools stay out of the way... (Score:3, Insightful)
Unfortunately what we have as standard is MS-Word which is WYSIWYG done very wrong that looks "good enough" to most businesses.It doesn't lay things out reliably and its bugs and quirks get in the way. There is no more need for these quirks and bugs than there is for Windows Explorer to be unable to resume a file copy when there is an error mid way throught (or Mac to delete files that haven't successfully been moved). ie. it's just badly written software made with commercial interests in mind trumping quality considerations.
Re:The best tools stay out of the way... (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:The best tools stay out of the way... (Score:4, Insightful)
I'm not a huge fan of the Anti-MS drivel. For starters, I quite liked Office 2007. Considering that the suite needed a major overhaul, I think that MS did the absolute best job they could to pave the way to a better interface, while not completely alienating their current installed base. I was part of the Beta, and found it to be by far the best and most usable version of Office I've used. (That said, Apple's got the right idea with iWork, and with any luck, will have an Office-killer on their hands in the next version or two)
On the other hand, the Anti-Vista rhetoric is completely justified. I started using Vista extensively for the first time last week. [Continue or Cancel], and found the user experience to be just about the worst of any operating [Continue or Cancel] system that I've used. This includes Windows Me.
It's slow, it's [Continue or Cancel] obtrusive, and it seemed a tad unstable, compared to XP (which in turn wasn't [Continue or Cancel] as good as 2000). The "added security" put in place also seems [Continue or Cancel] a bit analogous to the TSA's liquid ban. I'm just not sure that [Continue or Cancel] any malware is going to break into my system by changing the [Continue or Cancel] screen resolution, and the fact that I'm constantly [Continue or Cancel] nagged by the OS to purchase an AntiVirus feels like an admission of failure from the get-go.
Although I wasn't happy with the direction MacOS has been going (which is what prompted my Vista experiment), using Vista evokes the sort of frustration that I haven't felt while using a computer since I uninstalled Windows ME. [Continue or Cancel?]
Re:The best tools stay out of the way... (Score:3, Insightful)
I don't imagine that most consumer level users do the same, but for businesses the ability to fill in forms from a database seems rather indispensable.
Best tools .... (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Mark Pilgrim said it best a year ago (Score:3, Insightful)
No he didn't. While the sound bite you quoted is snappy, the rest of the his post is just blindingly stupid. The only even remotely sensible part is "I guess the part I don't understand is the target audience. Who is so serious about writing that they need a full-screen editor, but so unserious that they don't have a favorite editor already?".
Uh? Trying to make tools better is bad now? All the possible good text editors exist already?
There is actually a serious fallacy here: the believe that because the problem is old, the current solutions must be good. The current solutions probably are best of their kind that were possible when the problem was new. That does not mean that we can't come up with better solutions today and for today. This may include rather specialized and/or personalized text editors, after all tool-making is cheaper now than it was 10-20 years ago.
Re:The best tools stay out of the way... (Score:5, Insightful)
"Writing" is actually two domains: that of the author, and that of the calligrapher / typesetter. These domains are, to a surprising extent, independent: a manuscript can be full of scratchings-out, ink blots &c. yet still manipulate the emotions of a reader able to overlook the presentation, and beautifully laid-out text can still be nonsense.
Traditionally, manuscripts were created using pen and ink, or simple fixed-font, monospace typewriters; and someone at the publishing company dealt with setting books in type. WYSIWYG word processors have broken this natural abstraction. Ultimately, WYSIWYG software distracts you from being an author, by creating fancy (but ultimately irrelevant) calligraphic effects. (And in particularly bad cases, you get people who don't know any better trying to lay out a document using spaces; but let's not go there.)
The author who uses a simple text editor with a monospaced font is freed from having to worry how the final output will look, and can get on with the business of writing words.
Re:The way it works isn't the problem (Score:3, Insightful)
Those documents were created by a team who were experts in their field (technical writer, illustrator, layouter, typesetter, printer,
Now (in many cases) all those jobs are preformed by one person. That's the problem. We thought the software would be smart enough to help us. But it's not. And we don't know the basics of all those jobs. So we fuck up.
Re:The best tools stay out of the way... (Score:3, Insightful)
If you're Steven King then perhaps WYSIWYG isn't important to you. If you're doing most technical writing then it's a big timesaving feature, and at least some version, such as the rendering TeX editors use, is critical.