Show Office 2007 Who's the Boss 267
jcatcw writes "Microsoft knows how you like your Office Suite. You like Ribbons ... they're a given, right? Well, if not, Computerworld reviews some third-party packages that allow you to customize the software's interface. Classic Menu gives you an Office-2003-like set of menus. It'll help you navigate old menu structures to find favorite commands, but don't expect to use all the familiar keyboard shortcuts. ToolbarToggle lets you customize the menus. However, Classic Menu has two advantages over ToolbarToggle: It's available for PowerPoint today, and it includes Office 2007 commands on its menus, a modification you can't make to ToolbarToggle menus. RibbonCustomizer works within the Ribbon's own constraints to let you change the display of icons and commands on existing tabs or any new ones you create."
Man, just get used to it (Score:4, Insightful)
I think there are valid complaints about Office 2007 (namely, the new
Ah, Office - the Brazil of software (Score:5, Insightful)
I hate the way it formats stuff whether I want it or not. I hate that it automatically changes URLs and e-mail addresses into links, even though I'm creating print documents. I REALLY hate that copied text from elsewhere is pasted in with whatever format it had elsewhere, not with the format of the text on the page that I'm editing.
And I hate that it is invariably difficult or impossible to turn this crap off.
I sincerely fear every new release of MS Office specifically because I need to beat it into submission to make it behave as if I'm in charge.
I don't even know what a "ribbon" is, but I'm sure that I'll hate that too.
Why can't things be simple? (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Man, just get used to it (Score:2, Insightful)
Drop-down menus have been around so long because they work!
If, for example, I wanted to change how I was looking at stuff, I'd click on the "view" menu and my command would be right there, spelled out in english text. What hunting around? It never took me more than two clicks to find the command I wanted. Now it takes me anywhere from ten seconds to ten minutes, after which I give up and find somebody that's got an older version.
I hope that ClassicMenu works on Access, because I have a project to do for my database class...okay, after reading TFA I think I'm SOL.
Re:windowsblinds anyone? (Score:2, Insightful)
Thing is, a third party company can *sell* the extension, Microsoft wouldn't be able to. It would bring heaps of bad publicity (imagine the fun we'd have here at
Now, like any good company that is in it for the money, they can brush you off with a simple "Oh, that is not our fault, call *them* about that".
Re:Man, just get used to it (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:windowsblinds anyone? (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Man, just get used to it (Score:3, Insightful)
Is OpenOffice really any better? (Score:1, Insightful)
Re:Man, just get used to it (Score:4, Insightful)
Actually, drop-down menus work because you got used to them and so did everybody else. Heck, I remember my first time using a mouse when it became widely available. You obviously got past that one, although from your post I'm not sure if it wasn't without complaining
Yes, let's go back to the old menu... (Score:3, Insightful)
I have 13 years invested in the old interface (Score:1, Insightful)
I have nearly 15 years invested in the old interface. I read the "Working With Word 4 for Mac" book cover to cover when I got my first Mac in '94. I now use Word 2003. I KNOW the Word interface, and I am damn good at it.
And then MSFT decides to take all that knowledge and throw it out the window for me. Yeah, I can do the same stuff, but now I have to figure out how to do the same stuff. Sections, Styles, bookmarks, merged documents, field codes
If you hit the spacebar 20-30 times to get a line indented properly (which is admittedly most people) the ribbon is great for you. If you know how to use a tab-stop, it is a fucking mess.
Fine, you want the ribbon make it the default. But leave me the ability to work efficiently like I used to. Removing my ability to see the menubar (even it was a RegEdit) is just plain rude. This is just as bad a when we had to switch from WordPerfect 5.1 for DOS to Word[Im]perfect for Windows.
The above also pertains to Excel, et al. But Word is where I spend me time.
Now as for Word changing every version, mostly is stays the same, but the one place it does change EVERY TIME is the menu mnemonics. Every version of Word has a different key mnemonic (that character that is underlined in the menu). And sometimes MSFT likes to change around the CNTRL-? codes too. For those of use that like to keep our hands on the keyboard (efficient [although not always accurate] typists) running to the mouse is a pain.
Re:Man, just get used to it (Score:3, Insightful)
Is it better? I think it looks nicer. I don't have any serious problems with day to day stuff in excel or word.
I work in a high profile enterprise scenario so I can't use openoffice.org (I use that at home, I like free software and it's a great, if underrated and undersold product).
But I have to say this article made me think. You can't customise the ribbons!! You just get to customise the quick-links bar. There's a design flaw right there. Ok, so, Microsoft, it's not really a flaw, it's a design decision, but that ribbon should be user customisable. At least the product supports add-ons. Maybe Microsoft is hoping to make Office popular by means of community add-ons, like some elements of the game industry?
It won't stop me using the product (I like having a job, what can I say), but it is definately a shortcoming. Software, as a tool, must be customisable. The open source guys get it. Why can't Microsoft? You don't have to make the customisation tools obvious so as not to confuse the lowest common denominator, but at least make them available.
I wouldn't be surprised if customisation functionality is put back in after the first service pack/release.
Re:Man, just get used to it (Score:3, Insightful)
Familiarity.
It's a good thing. Why does the interface of the computer have to have flowers and fancy borders to be considered user friendly?