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Microsoft Not Dropping Hotmail Name 202

EveryNickIsTaken writes "CNET is reporting that despite planning for months to ditch the name 'Hotmail' for 'Windows Live Mail,' Microsoft will keep the Hotmail name, renaming the service 'Windows Live Hotmail.' Along with the slight name change, MS will be modifying the interface to look more like Outlook's GUI."
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Microsoft Not Dropping Hotmail Name

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  • by AbRASiON ( 589899 ) * on Thursday February 08, 2007 @10:34PM (#17943440) Journal
    I might take this opportunity to plug a blog I'm currently working on, trying to get Microsoft to manage their / hotmail / xbox live syncing / linking a little better.
    (no, there's no ads on there)
    I wouldn't say it's well written, nor would I say it's a major issue but it is an annoyance. []

    To quickly summarise, Microsoft has a policy where if you have a account to log in to some of their services, you can't change your login / backend email if you opted to chose a hotmail account, quite the frustrating if you simply don't want to use hotmail anymore.

    On top of that, those of us who own an Xbox 1 or Xbox 360 and use live can get frustrated that the live "gamertag" is permanently bound to a id which we may no longer want to use (be it avoiding people on MSN, sick of hotmail's email interface or simply want to use another email address)

    To my knowledge several other Microsoft web "products" use these live id's / passports but how well they integrate with / liveid I don't know - I believe there's a myspace kind of clone and also Zune owners need a passport - however, don't quote me on that.
    I wouldn't be surprised if there's more integration with Vista too, perhaps the messenger package installed as default, however that one is also speculation.

    So just to finalize my comment, yes I realize it's my own fault using MS's products and well yeah it's not a real major issue but it's annoying and could be handled a lot better, if anyone has any information on this, specifically names within MS / Xbox divisions for me to question, I'd appreciate it.

    and yes, I'm new to starting one of these ranty style pages so it's a mess, sorry all.

    - Scott
  • by 80 85 83 83 89 33 ( 819873 ) on Thursday February 08, 2007 @10:35PM (#17943446) Journal
    requiring a Windows Live ID for Office 2007 sucks

    it is a pain for me trying to install the new Office on all my customers' computers, since i now have to explain that in order to Activate it, they have to get a Live ID, which nearly requires a birth certificate and retinal scan....

    i mean, they already payed for a unique key, as was done in the "old days"...
  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 08, 2007 @11:10PM (#17943782)
    Even after the decade or so since web-based email started to become popular, none of the clients available today compare to pine or mutt in terms of productivity.

    With a console-based mail client, I'm able to check my mail, read new messages, reply to them, compose new emails, delete old mails, etc., without having to take my hands off of the keyboard. Compare that to web-based email interfaces, which tend to require at least one mouse click to view a message in one's inbox, one more click to reply, one more click to actually send the message, and often then one more click to return to the inbox.

    You may not think that five or six mouse clicks is really that bad. But when you have 60 to 70 emails to deal with each day for years on end, the time really adds up. And if you're an employer, you're paying your employees for what amounts to wasted time.

  • Microsoft (Score:2, Interesting)

    by mfh ( 56 ) on Thursday February 08, 2007 @11:12PM (#17943800) Homepage Journal
    Despite all of their attempts, Microsoft can not make better products, only better brands. Hotmail has powerful brand awareness that would be foolish to disregard. However, the problem now lies, is that in an attempt to revitalize the service's brand, they have attached their own equivalent of the word NEW to the service: Windows Live Hotmail. Usually a company does that when they have lost market share, which Hotmail must have now that Google's Gmail is open. Microsoft is in a pretty dull period right now, and it can't get better for them, only worse. They need to come up with something that truly maximizes human potential, instead of merely changing the stickers all the time.
  • by mikael ( 484 ) on Thursday February 08, 2007 @11:40PM (#17944020)
    It's like the entire design philosophy behind Hotmail has made a 180 degree turn since the Microsoft acquisition.

    Windows NT was originally sold on the basis that it would offer all applications developers and users the opportunity to develop and use applications that all have the same standard user interface everywhere, and thus UNIX was legacy.

    Windows XP was sold on on the basis that all applications developers could customise the look of their applications with "skins".

  • WebDav that's why (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Timbotronic ( 717458 ) on Friday February 09, 2007 @01:29AM (#17944758)
    I'm on the beta for Windows Live Mail desktop and it's actually quite good. Decent search, rss, automatic syncing of contacts with the online version and none of the full Outlook bloat. As someone else said, you get 2GB of storage now so that's not a big deal.

    But the big feature for me with Hotmail has always been the ability to download mail to a local mail client via WebDav. I've been contracting for 5 years and most companies block POP3 and SMTP connections. GMail doesn't do WebDav and I don't care what anyone says, a local client is *always* superior to a web interface.

    So until Google do WebDav syncing I'll stick with Hotmail.
  • Re:Live Mail beta (Score:3, Interesting)

    by ElleyKitten ( 715519 ) <kittensunrise@g[ ] ['mai' in gap]> on Friday February 09, 2007 @10:19AM (#17947402) Journal

    GMail is by far the best client, IMHO. It has very advanced AJAX, context-sensitive ads
    I think it's funny that people list the ads as a feature of GMail. Though, the ads are rather amusing in themselves. Whenever my friend Jesse emails me, I get an ad about Jesse Duplantis who will raise the dead. I also get ads about invisible men's underwear and taco holders. I guess that's better than the stupid flash ads like hit the fly for an ipod, but it seems wierd to claim that ads are a feature.

Never tell people how to do things. Tell them WHAT to do and they will surprise you with their ingenuity. -- Gen. George S. Patton, Jr.