Picking Sides In the Console War 119
If you're having trouble picking, the reviews are beginning to come in for the PlayStation 3 and the Wii. Chris Morris at CNN offers an analysis of the Wii launch games and some frustrations about the PlayStation 3. Chris Kohler at C|Net offers a side by side comparison of both systems ... and some frustrations about the PS3 controller. Finally, 1up offers a look back at Sony's launches, and a similar look back at Nintendo's launches in an effort to judge how the weekend will go.
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Because I am not interested in spending $500 for a game system that I can not make use of some of the key selling points (I do not have, nor want, an HD TV)?
Because the launch line up (lincluding those announced for 2007) looks relatively pathetic on the PS3 and looks relatively good on the Wii?
Because I am a nintendo fanboy and thus want Mario/Zelda/Metroid/SSB:B?
Are those all enough reasons?
If I had horrib
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Because I am a nintendo fanboy and thus want Mario/Zelda/Metroid/SSB:B?
Ehhh... I think you've made your choice. Why even visit a "Which console to buy" thread?
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That does not stop me from also admiring/liking other things. Of the past gen I actualy liked the PS2 the best, why? best games on it (largest variety). I admit, I only have a GC (specificly for Zelda/Metroid/Mario), however, I still tihk the PS2 had the best games.
Of the current gen I think the 360 and PS3 have AMAZING graphics, the only problem? I don't have the $$ to buy a HD TV. Also, of the 2 systems, the 360 h
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I'm a college student, you insensitive clod!!
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Dear all above. (Score:1)
Note: at the time of posting you can't (for love or money) buy either system and call it a day
Isn't picking sides like choosing b/w Ford & G (Score:3, Insightful)
customers and editors clearly have diferent values (Score:5, Interesting)
Here's how the editors ranked the systems:
1. PS3 (8.8) 2. Xbox 360 (8.4) 3. Wii (8.2)
Here's how the readers ranked the systems:
1. Wii (8.0) 2. Xbox 360 (7.5) 3. PS3 (7.1)
Aside from the full one-point "grade inflation" the readers ranked the systems in exactly the opposite order that the editors did. Is this because the editors are playing on machines they didn't pay for? And with HDTV equipment most users don't have? Is it perhaps related to the relative advertising might these companies are flexing at CNet? Are CNet gamers more casual and fun-oriented compared to more hardcore CNet editors?
Whatever's going on, it looks interesting to me.
-stormin (shameless self-promotion, I covered this discrepancy in my blog yesterday: http://kiriath-arba.blogspot.com/2006/11/editors-
I don't get it (Score:3, Insightful)
" The Xbox 360 finally has some competition: The PlayStation 3 hits stores (in extremely limited quantities) on November 17, followed two days later by the Nintendo Wii."
Is he using the past tense for future events? Today is the 16th of November. Did that quantum entaglement experiment work and this was our first message from the future? Seriously, what the hell.
As far as I know, the PS3 is only out in Japan and the Wii isn't out anywhere.
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I wish I knew.
-stormin
Re:Re:I don't get it : this is the explanation (Score:2)
The best you can do is alter them slightly but it breaked causality so it was possibly worse than it was going to have been.
Go get laid !
Re:I don't get it : this is the explanation (Score:2)
The message will fail to be sent in the past but the entanglement will be enforced.
As a result, the 42 bits message supposed to be the future reference will stay in the present, but the rest of the universe will be accordingly time shifted in the past to compensate.
The universe will keep running CRC checks on the 42 bits, and error correcting algorithms which are based on the universe's 'current present
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Nahhhh....
MOD PARENT UP! (Score:2)
Come on, people - they haven't even been released yet. The vast majority of "Reader reviews" are wild-ass "OMG THIS SYSTEM IS GOING TO BE SO AWESOME!!!!!" speculation.
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Beyond that, what other people buy WILL have an impact on you. If a console fails to achieve marketshare, the 3rd parties will stop supporting them.
Also, many people in the US (and, I'm sure, Japan as well) look on it as a patr
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I've seen literally thousands of blog posts and comments (many on Slashdot) that assert that Japanese gamers aren't buying the 360 because they "hate American products". This is, of course, not true since many US products are successful there. But MS/Xbox fanboys make this complaint alot, and they also assert the aforementioned "patriotism" as one reason they like the Xbox.
Sides? (Score:5, Insightful)
Don't pick sides, pick games.
Everything else will follow from there.
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If you want to try to predict games, here is an interesting news article [businessweek.com] on the Wii that was from a later /. article. Just some snippets that I found most interesting...
Electronic voting (Score:5, Funny)
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IGN actualy seems to be giving decent reviews all around (especialy the Zelda:TP review)....
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wtf?
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[...click...whirrrrr...bee-eep...]
Don't worry. It's just jealous of all the attention.
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I tried, I tried...
I find this whole "war" thing funny. (Score:4, Insightful)
I have a, still functioning, Sony Betamax. I have a, still functioning, Sony PS2. I have a, still hasn't set the house on fire, Xbox 360. I would like a Wii.
I don't care who "wins". I just want a machine I can play fun games on.
I don't own stock in any of these companies. I don't work for any of these companies. I have been on the "losing" side of these "wars" before. Just note my admission of owning a Betamax above. When Sony stopped making the players and stopped making the tapes, my machine continued to function quite well. In fact, I still watch my recordings of the original airings of Star Trek: The Next Generation. I watch for the old commercials more than for the show. Those who lived in the Oakland/SF Bay Area in the 1980s will know what I'm talking about when I mention "Paul, from the Diamond Center".
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I have a, still functioning, Sony Betamax. I have a, still functioning, Sony PS2. I have a, still hasn't set the house on fire, Xbox 360.
That looks like a suspiciously high number of commas in relatively short span of words. Since we're using "still functioning" as an adjective, I think we need to drop the comma. It's like writing "I have a, red, bike." Instead use hyphens to make "still functioning" into an adjective and you get the following:
"I have a still-functioning Son
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How about "I have a functioning Betamax"? I think the "still" could easily be inferred. And those extra commas were simply atrocious.
What do I know? I'm not an English professor. That was my father. I had to hide Cliff notes in my room growing up the way some kids hid marijuana.
Did he buy marijuana for you before exams like other kids' dads bough
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Is the betamax your primary source for viewing recorded shows/movies or is it, at this point, a novelty system to *only* watch your old, recorded star trek episodes? It does matter who wins and who loses because not everyone out there can buy a system that fails, shrug their shoulders and go 'oh well, let's buy another $250-$600 piece of hardware and hope for the best.'
I had my Betamax for about six years... (Score:2)
It's not like I just shrugged my shoulders and bought another system. Besides, VHS recorders had dropped dramatically in price by the time that happened, so I bought one of those after I found it difficult to buy Betamax tape. It really was no big deal. It's sort of like the situation I'm in now. The PS2 is about to die. I have an investment in the PS2 in the form of games that I continue to play. My sister and I are patiently waiting for
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I don't know about that! (Score:2)
Your point about things not always being cheap: I have to disagree there with respect to consumer electronics. Tape players, DVD players, computers, game systems, all get cheaper with time. That's why I had to laugh when I saw a bunch of guys sitting in front of Best Buy yesterday with tents. Those morons (yes, morons) were willing to sp
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I have tons of old Beta tapes still.. gotta hook up the old beast and see what still works.
Meh. (Score:3, Insightful)
Sure I didn't own "stock" in Sega when I was 10 - but I had a Master System. To a 10 year old, that's the equivalent of owning a lot of stock, because it's not like you're going to get two consoles. And the value of that stock is very apparent to you when your friends are playing Mario 3 and you're playing some incomprehensible turd (though Shinobi was
Flamebait? (Score:1)
It's fine to disagree with Zonk but implying that he's a 10 year old seems a bit trollish to me.
You have a point about the 3D0 and Jaguar, BUT... (Score:2)
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Phantasy Star. R-Type. Alex Kidd in Miracle World. Sonic. Castle of Illusion. Ghouls 'N Ghosts. Golden Axe. Tri-Formation. Streets of Rage. F-16 Fig
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Also, as before, the SMS didn't have Super Mario 3. None of my games had movies promoting them.
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You have a, still, annoying, itchy, comma finger.
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The one reason I can see for people to care is that it can matter whether or not you picked the winning pony. It'll suck for me if I get a Wii because I want to play Zelda and Super Mario Galaxy, but nobody else buys one, and so two years from now there are no good new games coming out for it. So instead of spending $50/pop on new games, I have to spend a couple hundred on another c
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Please don't buy a system based on what you think your friends are going to buy! If you want to play Zelda more than any other game, buy a Wii and nothing else. Buy a system if and only if it has the game or games you want to play. Nothing else really makes any sense.
Think of it this way. If you have a Wii and your bestest friend in the whole world has a PS3 your gaming enjoyment may have actually increased because
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b) I never said you should buy what your friends buy or any of that crap. I was just saying that it's one r
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Toasted PS3s (Score:4, Interesting)
This reminds me of a conversation I overheard at a game store the other day. Apparently, this kid had borrowed a PSP game from his friend. The game had a firmware update on it that had failed to install properly. His PSP was absolutely toasted, and wouldn't even boot. The guy behind the counter was explaining to the kid's dad that it would cost almost as much as a new PSP to have Sony fix it.
I wonder how many PS3's will go the Way of the Brick(TM)?
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No, that's real. It's the new Wii Channel that's being introduced: "Wii Eat Your Baby"
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Dupe (Score:1)
Kids, PLEASE buy a Wii, 360 or PS3 today =) (Score:5, Insightful)
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Cerebral games like Civilization came out around 15 years ago. Sim City about the same.
The point and click adventures of the Sierra genre (yes, genre) were mostly in the late 80s to early 90s.
Hell, even the most cerebral of games, Digger and AlleyCat, are from the mid 80s. OK, maaybe these ones aren't quite as cerebral, but it does require strategy to get the food from all the bowls on a hard level or figuring out which hole in the swiss chees the mouse would come
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Or alternatively commercial game developers move away from PCs altogether as Consoles increasingly have PC style functions and no driver issues.
This is exactly what's wrong with the world (Score:1)
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Tee-hee, you said "taint".
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I vote for Vectrex. (Score:2)
I already voted (Score:3, Insightful)
Non-gamers and gamers alike are using words like "revolutionary" and "fun" to describe the Wii in every review I've read.
Personally, I already have a PS2, and don't need a PS3 plus. I'd rather have something totally different.
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Why, exactly? I mean, how is moving your hand slightly (over-exaggerated arm motions are optional, but not required) significantly different than moving your hand slightly when playing a game that uses a mouse? Yet very few people get "sick of" playing PC games because of it.
You mean the same Power Glove that was not made by Nintendo, and which was not designed from the
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Except that it isn't. While you can wave the remote around, you can play the Wii with your hands resting on your legs, like you play a "normal" console.
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Good luck with that. (Score:2)
That's somewhat strange, considering that people are already playing the Wii and not getting sick of it after 10 minutes.
In my experience, the Wii is the only console ever that got lots of non-players excited. Suddenly, people come to me and ask me about games. These are people who never held a controller in their hands. Where I live (in Europe), a major electronics retailer is doing a midnigh
Wii and I got reasons for it (Score:2)
Wii: Very open stand. multiple consoles, multiple games, free to try, reasonable lines. Lines weren't a problem since you could easly watch the games around you, seeing someone play the wii is much more fun than watching anyone playing on any other console. Once you've seen this, you'll understand.
PS3: Big black enclosed s
That Wii article from Chris was useless. (Score:1)
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I'm planning to get a Nintendo Wii after the new year, so keep your fingers to yourself.
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The Japanese market is dead in my opinion. The gamers here have chosen to ignore the highest quality of games simply because they're n
Re: Final Fantasy is Not Playstation Exclusive. (Score:2)
Keep in mind, A "Final Fantasy Exclusive" is more valuable to Sony than to Square. Square can and has been going multi-platform.
If Final Fantasy XIII or Kingdom Hearts goes multiplatform it will do litt
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Final Fantasy 1-2 IV, & V are out for the GBA.
Final Fantasy III - is out for the DS.
Final Fantasy VI has been announced for the GBA.
Final Fantasy Started on the NES, moved to the SNES. then to the Playstation. Final Fantasy VII was the first Sony Exclusive.
There is no reason why Square can't go multiplatform.
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Dear oh dear, there is a huge difference between Square recycling their back catalogue for the umpteenth time on various platforms, and having the latest and greatest FF on anything else than a Sony platform.
If M$ asked nicely (and paid through the nose), Square would release FFVII for XBox360. And?
If you don't understand why the FF core series can only be released on Sony platforms (and yes that is new releases - for the terminally stupid), you n
Sq-En will do whatever makes them the most money (Score:2)
I think I can help here: Square moved from Nintendo to Sony when Sony introduced a system with larger storage capacities (the PS with CDs). They remained with Sony because the PS2 was pretty much killing the other two consoles during the last console gen.
With the current generation, two of these things aren't how they used to be.
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There is no reason why Square CAN'T go multiplatform to make the most money in this gen.
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There is nothing stopping Square from moving FF off Sony, so I wouldn't count on FFXIII being Playstation exclusive until you have it in your hands. No matter what the plans are atm(and we'll presume you don't know them, since your handle here postdates said screens which may or may not exist), they can and have changed in the past.
Also, knowing Square, I'd be surprised if XIII came out any earlier than 2008.
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Why? FF started on the NES.
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You don't say? Is it free internet day at the trailor park or something, what is it with these inane posts?
Look I won't spell it out here, cos I'll get smacked again, but anyone who spent 30 minutes reading back issues of the Japan Times would be able to puzzle out why no core FF game will be on anything but a Sony Platform.
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No matter what the plans are atm(and we'll presume you don't know them, since your handle here postdates said screens which may or may not exist)
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Ag
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