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What Really Happened To Ubuntu's Edgy Artwork? 297

angrykeyboarder writes, "Many Ubuntu users expressed surprise, dismay, and disappointment when Mark Shuttleworth (sabdfl) nixed the popular community-developed artwork during the beta phase of Ubuntu 6.10 ('The Edgy Eft'). Some Ubuntu community members were downright shocked, and many were ultimately dissatisfied with the final product. What exactly happened? Short answer: the Art Team was less disturbed than some other community members were. has the scoop." Slashdot and are both part of OSTG.
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What Really Happened To Ubuntu's Edgy Artwork?

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  • Re:My guess? (Score:0, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 14, 2006 @11:06PM (#16847904)
    Nope. Their artist was fine. He just decided to work on different distro [].
  • by arthurpaliden ( 939626 ) on Tuesday November 14, 2006 @11:40PM (#16848176)
    The reason is quite simple. It takes more money to raise a child than to bury a person.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 15, 2006 @12:00AM (#16848284)
    "And in what society is killing people fine? That's a pretty ignorant statement..."

    Perhaps my sarcasm detector is malfunctioning, but have you turned on a television or played a popular computer game in the last, oh 50 years?

    As an example, today's FPSs look almost identical to some of the training simulators I used in my unit a few years ago minus any of the moral context and maturity of the personnel. Give Lt. Col. David Grossman's "On Killing" a read - it's quite an eye-opener if you haven't thought too deeply about how pervasive entertainment can easily desensitize and incrementally condition unwitting persons.
  • Re:ok, I'm pissed (Score:2, Interesting)

    by alib001 ( 654044 ) on Wednesday November 15, 2006 @12:10AM (#16848336)
    Oh, I see it's a nickname:

    Ubuntu 6.10 (The Edgy Eft): October 2006 []
  • by Chief Typist ( 110285 ) on Wednesday November 15, 2006 @12:29AM (#16848420) Homepage
    The icons were professionally designed: []

    By one guy. Working directly with Mark.

    My suggestion for the art team would be to establish someone as an art director. Someone that Mark trusts to implement his vision. And then have that art director give specific tasks to the designers that report to him.

    It sounds like they're heading in that direction by giving Frank Stroep the title of "Artist in Chief". His task now is to tell people what he wants. And if you think it's easy being a hard ass when it comes to design & the people who do it, let me assure you IT IS NOT.

    If this doesn't happen, they'll end up taking the "design by committee" approach. The result of this kind of process is something that no one loves -- a lowest common denominator. Sort of like when software is designed by a committee :-)

    For what it's worth, I'm a principal in the company that did the Ubuntu work -- so I speak from experience about this stuff :-)


  • by LordLucless ( 582312 ) on Wednesday November 15, 2006 @02:23AM (#16849022)
    Oooh, so you're not talking about actual sex or violence, you're talking about simulated sex and violence. Because it's bloody obvious that most societies disapprove ov violence more than sex - even in the US, I think you're birth rate is still higher than your murder-rate. I'd say the reason people are more okay with violence on the screen than sex is that they consider it unlikely that little Johnnie is going to go out and blow up a city block with a bazooka from a commandeered humvee no matter how many action flicks he sees. If he watches a lot of skin flicks though, it's probably going to give him ideas next time he's alone with little Sally.

    Violence is obviously wrong, and you can usually rely on that as enough of a disincentive to discourage it. Even if you can't, the availability of bazookas also limits it. Sex, on the other hand isn't obviously wrong like violence, but it can lead to unwanted and unconsidered consequences - pregnancy, disease, etc, as well as increasing the complexity and intensity of a relationship. It has to be discouraged because it's so available - whereas violence of the action-movie sort remains remote; the viewer is rarely going to be in a situation where they could emulate it.
  • by wysiwia ( 932559 ) on Wednesday November 15, 2006 @02:33AM (#16849074) Homepage
    What a achievement, new backgrounds and splash screens! I thought 'Edgy Eft' was meant to try out some new kinds of technology or some new kind of user interactions. I even hoped there might be some provocative design decisions which allows to bring the Linux desktop a footprint forward. Yet backgrounds and splash screens don't improve my working system by a single inch. So what's so edgy on 'Edgy Eft'?

    O. Wyss
  • by the_womble ( 580291 ) on Wednesday November 15, 2006 @04:42AM (#16849538) Homepage Journal
    consider sex same as eating lunch or taking a dump

    When did taking a dump last profoundly change a relationship?

    How big is the market for pictures of people eating lunch?

    Do you get spam offering mouth enlargements?

    How often to people seek psychiatric help over luncheon problems?

    Do you think "agile and developed" is a synonym for "adolescent"

  • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 15, 2006 @05:46AM (#16849830)
    You know, the people _most_ likely to change the default theme, are the new users.
    It's the one thing they can do that gives them some power over their environment - it stops becoming this faceless machine and becomes _theirs_

    Looking round the office, most the IT staff have their Windows desktops on the default theme and default background (though some have reverted to Classic), a quick look around the sales people and customer service reps and there's not a single one with the default settings. Most have just changed the background, but a few have changed themes, and some have even figured out how to mess with the colours and fonts.

    It's the same with my 8 year old daughter and her not so technically literate mother - both feel the need to customize their desktop.

    The idea that customizing the desktop is something scary that new users would never do is just not something I have ever seen demonstrated in the real world.
  • by Carewolf ( 581105 ) on Wednesday November 15, 2006 @07:56AM (#16850306) Homepage
    Most people have never had sex profoundly change a relationship.
    You know why?
    Because they don't have relationships without sex!

    Only scared teenagers do, and when the hormons gets the better of them, and they always do, they will have sex, wether their parents want it or not, and if they are not prepared for it they will not be prepared, and then it leads to undesired consequences (teen pregnancy).
  • by somersault ( 912633 ) on Wednesday November 15, 2006 @11:33AM (#16852532) Homepage Journal
    I like how you miss the point, and then consider your mind more agile and developed.. must be easy to have a more agile viewpoint on life when in actual fact you don't notice what's going on. He's got a very good point as to why sex is more frowed upon than violence in entertainment, aside from the fact that some people, surprise surprise, don't need porn, as they have the real thing to keep them happy.

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