Eben Moglen To Scrutinize Novell-Microsoft Deal 102
An anonymous reader writes "Novell is providing Eben Moglen's Software Freedom Law Center with confidential access to the legal terms of the Novell-Microsoft partnership, allowing to organization to verify if the deal is compatible with the GPL2 and GPL3 licenses. Moglen in the past has alleged that the patent license between the two companies could be in violation with section 7 of the GPL. Novell on Tuesday published a document on its website, explaining that they circumvented the GPL provisions by providing a patent license to the end user rather than between the two companies."
Awesome (Score:5, Insightful)
So they're claiming that since the patent license is for their end users, and not for the company, it's alright that they're distributing patented software under the GPL, because their users can still use it
In europe? Shoot charlie mcgreevy, quick. (Score:5, Insightful)
Bomb Microsoft Ireland. Bomb the EPO.
Microsoft has been saying for years that developers can't earn money writing free software - well, I can, have done for years. But with their patent machinations, they're trying to make what they've said a reality, trying to make free software the domain of hobbyists only.
I think we can now all agree (Score:4, Insightful)
Boycott in 3...2....1 (Score:4, Insightful)
GPL Section 7 (Score:5, Insightful)
For example, if a patent license would not permit royalty-free redistribution of the Program by all those who receive copies directly or indirectly through you, then the only way you could satisfy both it and this License would be to refrain entirely from distribution of the Program.
Novell as the distributor must provide the license to the recipients. Novell has no license to distribute the patents from Microsoft. Obviously this means they can not grant such a license to those they distribute the code to.
I don't see how they could possibly claim to comply.
customer problems? (Score:5, Insightful)
First I'd like to ask of the SuSE customers who frequent slashdot, were you having problems with "Linux/Windows interoperability in areas like virtualization, heterogeneous server management, and office document compatibility" which you brought to Novell's attention?
And second, exactly what were your potential concerns about any "barrier to enterprise-wide Linux adoption" that were allayed by Novell's agreement with Microsoft?
It seems that we have seen article after article and report after report that shows significant progess by the open source community in providing everything that Novell claims this agreement addresses so I'm a bit skeptical of this answer and would like to know what SuSE customers think.
re: GPL Section 7 Rebuttle (Score:5, Insightful)
SuSE Customers (Score:0, Insightful)
It can be the case if you buy a SuSE Enterprise Linux Desktop bundled with Microsoft's "covenant". If you use your SuSE Linux to write GPL code Microsoft can now sue you for breach of this "covenant" rather than for patent infringement.
Beware developers. Microsoft aims here at ability of you, as independent developers, to write and distribute code you wrote.
Re:then what? (Score:5, Insightful)
However, there is a far more important question before us: Did Novell act in a way that is beneficial to the community at large or harmful. If it was harmful, then it is safe to say they did not behave in a way compatible with the spirit of the GPL and I personally find unforgivable for company that claims to be FOR us.
What is a ``license''? (Score:5, Insightful)
So, the whole idea of the dodge is that Microsoft and Novell have swapped some money and--in exchange--worked out an agreement whereby they won't be suing each other and their customers for violating patents the one or the other may hold.
Would anybody care to explain how that isn't just a re-wording of the textbook definition of a license?
I mean, if you explained to the judge that all you did was hold a sharpened piece of iron alloy near the upper portion of my thorax while indicating that you desired to take possession of my wallet...well, what kind of a blithering idiot of a judge wouldn't find you guilty of mugging me?
Cheers,
b&
Re:I think we can now all agree (Score:3, Insightful)