Next-Gen Console Exclusives Explored 101
SeventhStar writes "Siliconera has an article with a long list of exclusive titles broken down by next-gen console. The Playstation 3 only has a few exclusive games at the moment; 29 are third-party, with 12 are made by Sony. Meanwhile Microsoft has 48 Xbox 360 exclusive games, with 23 of them are developed internally. However it looks like the real winner for exclusive games is the Wii. There are 39 titles only for the Wii and even ported games are going to play differently. When you adjust the amount of exclusive games on the Xbox 360 for its one year head start, the Wii has more original games coming out for it. Since console exclusives help determine which console to purchase is the Wii in a good spot?"
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Novel concept (Score:5, Insightful)
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Of course (Score:5, Insightful)
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Exactly, when you want to talk 'exclusive', you cannot get very far without talking about franchise names. Afterall, what does Sony have? I was going to say Crash Bandicot [wikipedia.org] but a quick search shows he wasn't 'exclusive'. The only 2 franchises I can think of for Sony is Twisted Metal and the Everquest games (Champions of Norath, etc).
However, with that said, franchise games won't 'sell' millions of consoles. Just look at the Gamecube. I bought that over the PS2 due to primarly Zelda and Metroid. The G
Re:Of course (Score:5, Insightful)
Who modded this up?
Ever heard of Final Fantasy? Or Metal Gear Solid? Or Grand Theft Auto? And yeah, even though MGS2 was ported to the XBOX, as were the GTA games, they had long periods of exclusivity on the PS2. And that helped the PS2 a lot. The PS2 beat the XBOX mainly because it had a LOT more games, just like the PS1 vs. N64. With such a huge library the PS2 offered "something for everyone", look at the success of the relatively bizarre Katamari Damacy and Guitar Hero.
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MGS is not an exclusive francise to Sony, neither is GTA as you can find them on XBox and PC (like you said). You can also find FF games on the PC as well as other 'old' consoles before Sony. So, like I said, they're not exclusive like Mario, Zelda, Metroid, etc. Until the day Nintendo goes the way of Sega, where Sonic can now be found on different systems, you won't be able to play any flavor of Nintendo 'franchise' games on a diffe
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I'm not sure I understand this logic. It does not matter that that MGS and FF appeared on "old" consoles. You can also get the only Zelda games on Windows. These games are popular NOW (FF has been popular for a long time) and they are Sony exclusives NOW. We're talking about the latest generation consoles, right?
Of cour
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They don't interest me (Score:2, Flamebait)
However, I'm glad to see that these console games are becoming more differentiated from more serious-minded games for the PC. I don't really care for the idea that everyone lumps all tech-games in the same category. Donkey Kong and Black and White don't exist in the same galaxy, and Eve-Onl
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Personally I have always liked the Metroid and Zelda series w
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So the real winner is Wii... (Score:1)
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Well, it might not help for male gamers...
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The console with the highest number of good exclusive titles will have the advantage. Given Nintendo's history of making most of its own exclusive titles, and designing them in such a way that they seem "too childish" to most gamers, I'm betting the Wii's lead won't help them that much.
The Wii will only win if Nintendo can successfully overcome the American audience's perception that Nintendo is "for kids".
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"teens were looking for a homoerotic wrestling game"
I'm a music major, so I never took any business classes. To whom would I speak if I wanted to sell a game idea to a software company?
Re:Only good exclusives help (Score:5, Insightful)
Um, Playstation much? I mean, I know 1996 was a looong time ago, but to remember how crappy 90% of PS1 games were compared to N64 games, you don't have to think back that far, you can just go to the games section of any pawn shop or thrift store and see rack after rack of games that quite obviously suck so hard you wonder how on earth they were ever produced.
The fact is that in every generation, the machine with the most games wins, period. So near as I can tell, it does not matter much if those games are good or bad. Look at the Game Boy: it bested competitor after competitor on the strength of its library and its battery life, vastly inferior graphics be damned. Similarly, the DS is beating the PSP not just because it has a crazy stylus, but also because the PSP has very few games.
If you want to predict the sales of a console, what matters most is the number of games published for it, nothing else.
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However, this doesn't prove out, as there are actually more PSP g
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Actually, what you discribe is caused by 2 reasons I know of...
In the case of the NES (Nintendo Entertainment System... yes, the 'first' one), Nintendo squized 3rd party support for all kinds of nickels and dimes to produce a game on their system... only, no matter what crap they made, it was going to make a profit (well, almost always), simply due to the fact that EVERYONE had a NES. This doesn't mean everyone would bu
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I can agree with that only if you mean that havnig the most games is the consequence of the console winning.
If what you said was true, no new console could win against older ones.
The XBox360 would be sure to win too, which seems doubtful to me.
So near as I can tell, it does not matter much if those games are good or bad. Look at the Game Boy: it bested competitor after competitor on the strength of its library and its battery
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I'd love to know in what alternate universe a calmly-delivered legitimate line of logical thought constitutes "Flamebait".
Oh, wait, that's right -- it's the Slashdot universe, where anything negative said about any company beloved by fanboys is automatically mis-moderated as either "Troll" or "Flamebait".
Coupled with this... (Score:2, Interesting)
Happy, happy, happy! (Score:2, Insightful)
I mean, time and again companies show my how happy other people are using their products, but I never seem to get the same happiness they portray. What could be wrong with me, or perhaps I'm not getting the same product that they were happy to own. Do these companies switch their products on me, selling me one that doesn't make people happy, while showing off the ones that do?
But this one, I believe it's real. I trust that when Nintendo shows me that people who use their
Re:Coupled with this... (Score:5, Insightful)
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There are two possible conclusions from this:
1.) Be careful who you date.
2.) Tired of being single? Get herpes, then you can finally start taking longs walks on the beach!
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By that metric, Nintendo has already won. They're going to sell the Wii with actual markup, rather than taking a loss like Sony and Microsoft, and all signs point to stock shortage.
I'm going to take a turn at predicting the future of the video game market. Nintendo is going to P0wn the FPS market in the next generation. The wiimote has the potential to make FPSs more playable than keyboards/mice. Just watch this vi [google.com]
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Well... no.. it's not as simple as that. If Nintendo builds 6 million machines and only sells 2 million, they'll lose money. They'll also have to recoup all the money they spent on developing and marketing the machine.
I'm just being needlessly nitpicky, though. 'Success' would have to be defined. The GameCube was successful
Errrr... Your going to loose lots of money (Score:2)
No offense but the Wii's control system in some ways can almost be thought as the same type for the DS so much so that Trauma Center and WarioWare has it's own version for the Wii. The wand is the substitue for the stylus. The DS was seen as a cheap gimmic but see where it is now. Couple that with a gre
Re:PS3 Current Exclusives - 104 Total (Score:3, Informative)
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Secondly, how can you count Bomberman or any Sudoku game as being exclusive? Go ahead, name one system since the release of the PS1 that has not had Bomberman on it? The Ngage maybe? Or wait, didn't it have a copy of Bomberman?
Also, that list
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Wrong.
Those titles are straight from the publishers themselves. Many of those games like the Naughty Dog title we already have released media from.
"Also, that list is every single announced game for the PS3, not just games scheduled between release and March 2007. "
Wrong.
All the non-exclusive PS3 titles were trimmed.
Re:PS3 Current Exclusives - 104 Total (Score:4, Insightful)
Wrong.
Those titles are straight from the publishers themselves. Many of those games like the Naughty Dog title we already have released media from.
Would you like a list of titles that have names, video footage, even gameplay footage that never saw the light of day? Do I need even mention Duke Nukem Forever? A game can cease to exist at any point, and the fact remains that until it has a name, the chances of it being vaporware are much higher. To be honest, a name is no more proof of existence than video footage is, but we have to draw the line somewhere. "Also, that list is every single announced game for the PS3, not just games scheduled between release and March 2007. "
Wrong.
All the non-exclusive PS3 titles were trimmed.
Regardless, the fact remains the scope of the article was for a specific time period, and that list exceeds that time period. If you're going to go with that list, even including the untitled games, then you have to reasonably do the same for the other 2 ssytems, so you can't really compare that list to the list given by TFA, because you're not utilizing the same restrictions under which the article was operating.
Re:PS3 Current Exclusives (Score:5, Funny)
I can't wait until this comes out!
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Play mechanics change more (Score:2)
And a greatly changed play mechanic. Does Mario Kart DS play anything like New Super Mario Bros.?
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Kart != Party != Dr. != Golf != Tennis != DDR (Score:2)
So far, there have been only eight Super Mario 2D platform games: SMB1, SMB2, SMB3, SML, SMW, SML2, Yoshi's Island, and a long gap until NSMB. (Does Super Princess Peach count?) There have been twice that many Mega Man games on TV consoles alone.
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Re:Exclusive != Original (Score:5, Insightful)
Exactly. Mario has been used in completely different ways with different storylines throught out his life (you know what I mean by his life). Mario is really a brand. Everytime he appears, it's in a new game with a different story and new style of gameplay. EA Sports games on the other hand are the same game with better graphics and updated rosters. Other than that the differences are incremental and unoriginal.
You can't say that Mario games are unoriginal just because they used the same set of characters over again. That'd be like saying Shakespear was unoriginal for writing with the Latin alphabet.
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But Zelda and Metroid in fact have a lot of story. The 1000 or so internet sites dedicated to nothing else than determining the timeline of the universe and discussing the minutia of every
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It'd be more like if 1/3 of all Shakespeare stories had Romeo and Juliet in them. Do you think Shakespeare would still hold up if he couldn't be bothered to come up with something new to write about?
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If all Mario games looked about the same and just had slightly different graphics and different levels with exactly the same style of gameplay, then I
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I love when this argument comes up. Heh.
Compare SMB 1, 2, and 3 to Sonic 1, 2, and 3. Superficially they're very similar, but play-wise, you have to totally re-adjust to play any of those three games. Try playing Mario 3 then go back to Mario 1. Ouch. The original Sonic trilogy fe
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The real thing to think about are titles that _aren't_ going to Wii but _are_ going to PS3/360. The big one that comes to mind right off the bat is GTA 4 (hate it, love it, its going to be a huge title). I'm wondering if the Wii's percieved underperformance will cause devs to shy away and have "next-gen" mean 360/PS3 only.
Also, is this article really a surprise to anyone? Nintendo always has the strongest 1st party titles because they have the strongest lineup of characters and games people love.
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Are you a developer?
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Personally I would want (if I could afford it) a PS3. It's not just about the graphics. It's about Linux, a hard drive on the "cheap" model, GTA IV, th
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I'm not sure measurement of exclusives is necessarily a good way to compare systems anyway. The GameCube had a disproportionate number of exclusives and not for a good reason. In the GameCube's case it was because the system trailed into 3rd place and 3rd parties could not be bothered with it. Even if the Wii takes off, it too will need a lot of exclusives, sim
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Besides I count to 49 games x360 games in the article (48 if we don't count xbox live arcade unplugged), ps3 had 35 (with 20 made by sony and sony online studios), wii had 38
So the sumary had alot of factual errors.
on a side note: I think t
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What i see (Score:2, Funny)
Might be interesting, i didnt know that many were exclusives on ps3 and 360.
*assuming exclusive means exclusive
A note to the publishers:
Sales would not be hurt by having a name that is pronouncable should one want to go to a store and like ASK for it
Miyasato Miyoshi Kyoudai Naizou: Sega Golf Club
WTF? Thank god for subtitles eh
There was a Wii title that sounded like my cat hacking up a furball too.
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Forgot one (Score:1)
Halo 2 pc
Not all about exclusives (Score:1)
In that list, I didn't see a single game that would cause me to buy one console over another. The truth is, with a handful of exceptions, the best games get produced for all of the consoles. It will be interesting to see how well the non-exlusive games run on the different platforms.
My guess is that there will be little to differentiate the XBox 360 from the PS3, which would be bad news for Sony given the price differential. Nintendo has some opportunity if, for example, Madden is just plain more fun with
console wars (Score:1)