Teen Plays Videogame With Brain Signals 204
SkyFire360 writes "A team of ECoG (ElectroCorticography) researchers from Washington University in St. Louis successfully wired a young man's brain up to a computer and began reading the neurological firings in his brain. After analyzing the action potentials created when a neuron fires, they were able to get two-dimensional control of a cursor. Taking the research one step further, they decided to connect an old Atari 2600 to the signal processing computer to see if the young man could control the videogame system."
Funny. (Score:5, Interesting)
I suppose the researchers thought it would be hi-friggin'-larious to make the Atari Mindlink [atarimuseum.com] a reality. That way they really COULD play games with their mind! (Insert *snickers* and *gaffaws* here.) Considering that the original was a sham (you were really moving your brow to control the game), I'm not sure they really want to be associated with such "technology".
On the other hand, I suppose they deserve some serious Geek Cred for making such an obscure reference with this experiment. Most people wouldn't "get it" anyway, and would only see the neat research going on.
Re: (Score:1)
Re: (Score:2)
Re: (Score:2)
*gaffaw*! *gaffaw*!
But seriously, it's interesting their choice in games. I might have gone for Tetris or Spy Hunter.
Sadly (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Sadly (Score:4, Funny)
Re: (Score:2, Funny)
Re: (Score:2)
After succumbing to severe brain damage, his body would be dumped in the New Mexico desert, flattened by a steamroller, and covered in concrete.
Re:Sadly (Score:5, Funny)
Re: (Score:2, Funny)
Re: (Score:2)
We also used hypnotism to make players believe they were really in the game.
Damn we w
Re: (Score:2)
Uh oh... (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Uh oh... (Score:4, Funny)
Just go to a mall and observe.
KFG
Re:Uh oh... (Score:4, Funny)
Unfortunately, the networking overhead causes the computation power of the group to be significantly less than that of any given individual.
I am old. And bitter.
Re: (Score:3, Funny)
And the output is psuedorandom - at best.
KFG
Re: (Score:3, Funny)
1/IQ(tot) = 1/IQ(t1) + 1/IQ(t2) + 1/IQ(t3)
Not a good solution. (Score:3, Informative)
Even worse, if you connect your cluster to the internet, the effective computing power becomes T^(1/n)/B, where B is the bandwidth of the connection.
There is a special exception to this, however, that takes into account the Mischief Coefficient. For any problem, P, with a fractional mischief component of M, the expected power becomes T^(1/(1-M)n).
As we can see, for any
Re: (Score:2)
Re: (Score:2)
Im posting... (Score:5, Funny)
So what. (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:So what. (Score:4, Informative)
http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,20
Re: (Score:2)
* Batteries not included.
Re: (Score:2)
Re: (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:So what. (Score:5, Informative)
Though we're the first lab to use the ECoG technology, even our resolution is too poor to accurately control things in more than two dimensions. A breakdown of the different resolutions of Brain-Computer-Interfacing is here [imageshack.us]. The problem with EEG is that the skull acts as a signal damper that disperses and blurs the electromagnetic waves created by the neurons. Though we can still detect the waves created, it becomes increasingly more difficult to discern what area of the brain created these waves, much less what neuron(s) did.
A breakdown of the different types of BCI currently being developed and researched:
Though keep an eye out for us at BMES... we just found coding for direction and velocity, and it is scalar.
Re: (Score:2, Informative)
By the way, using EEG's is definitely possible. We managed to get usable signals from only 8 (ful
Magnetoencephalography ? (Score:2)
Any attempts of using magnetoencephalography for this purpose ?
Re: (Score:3)
Re: (Score:2)
About that "neural code" you're talking about... one of the long-term goals of Dr. Leuthardt - the lead neurosurgeon in our lab - is to find that code
Re: (Score:2)
Who are these hos, and how can I party with them?
Did they figure it out, or did he? (Score:5, Interesting)
Re: (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Did they figure it out, or did he? (Score:5, Insightful)
KFG
Re: (Score:1)
Re: (Score:3, Insightful)
They isolated which section of his brian was activated when he moved his tounge and hand. It sounds like the same sections fire when you just think about performing the actions.
I bet the reason they used the tounge and hand rather then left hand\right hand is because they don't have the resolution on the grid to be able to differentiate the two.
What I worry about is the long term effects of purposely sending "interrupt" signals to your body parts. Has this ever been studied befo
Re:Did they figure it out, or did he? (Score:5, Funny)
Re: (Score:2)
Re: (Score:2)
It's not clear from TFA whether information from tongue & hand were aggregated or were independent sources of control. But the reason you would use these two effectors is because there is a disproportionate amount of cortical surface devoted to the tongue and hand (because of the fine control we have over them). Left and right hand
Re: (Score:2)
Re: (Score:2, Informative)
We used the program BCI2000 for this task. This program allows us to sample 16 specific electrodes at a rate of 1200 hz, attaining frequencies up to 600hz. By reading data from calibration tests, we can then select the best electrodes that have the highest r^2 value for use with controlling it. I believe we're currently using a form of ICA for the signal analisys and we may move to something mroe complicated in the near future, but I'm the programmer on the team and not the electrical engineer.
Ps2 (Score:2)
Re:Ps2 (Score:4, Interesting)
"Smart BrainGames"
http://news.zdnet.com/2100-1040_22-5940181.html [zdnet.com]
It's for AD(H)D kids & the example I remember was Burnout. Your brain waves controlled the accelerator. When you lost focus, you started slowing down (losing) when your brain waves were doing what the doctors wanted, you kept going full speed.
Your Brain + PS2 = behavioral therapy
Re: (Score:2)
No hands! (Score:1)
Re: (Score:2)
Is this supposed to be serious? (Score:1, Interesting)
Connection? (Score:2)
Re: (Score:2)
Re: (Score:2, Informative)
Dang. (Score:5, Funny)
Re: (Score:3, Funny)
Uh... isn't that ONE dimensional control? (Score:3, Insightful)
Re: (Score:2)
Re:Uh... isn't that ONE dimensional control? (Score:4, Informative)
Re: (Score:2)
You can think this if you want, but you would still be wrong. Moving left and right in space invaders is one degree-of-freedom, pure and simple. No matter how many "actions" the brain needs to construct to perform it, it's not 2-D. Also, it's not clear from TFA how firing the cannon was controlled-- it may have just
Re: (Score:2)
Re: (Score:2)
Hooraaaah ! Let the RSI End ! (Score:2)
Total pWnAge for the powergamers !
Little curious as to how they will manage tons of macros, inventory, skills and shit but im sure theyll proabably be the first group in the society to be the officially confirmed telepaths/telekinesists.
Re: (Score:2)
Action Potentials? (Score:1, Informative)
EEG, does not read action potentials, rather it reads synaptic input into the cortex not output from the cortex. The news article has this backwards.
Re: (Score:2)
not even close to the same but ... (Score:5, Interesting)
O'Reily E-Meter hacks (Score:2, Funny)
Re: (Score:2, Funny)
Invasive technique (Score:2, Interesting)
Teens HAVE brain signals? (Score:1)
How long... (Score:1)
Stealth Sharks to Patrol the High Seas [slashdot.org]
So we can use our minds to control computers. And we can use computers to control the motor functions-- and utilize certain sensory faculties-- of certain animals. Both articles explain that even though these are both very exciting projects, they are also rather distant from any kind of supremely complex operation that would prove worrisome.
So I u
Re: (Score:1)
Force Feedback (Score:1)
Much more interesting (Score:2)
Kevin is jealous (Score:2)
Here is the pic of the young man (Score:2)
that's nothing! (Score:2)
Two dimensional? (Score:2)
There's one thing I don't quite get, from TFA, they put an emphasis on how he's playing a two-dimensional game. Right, Space Invaders is display two dimensionally, however the player movements are one dimensional, but then they say, "We then gave him a more challenging version in two-dimensions and he mastered two levels there playing only with his imagination". What the hell does it mean?
Oh and in case it allows people to control a cursor on the screen, I'd love to see at work on the basic everyday life mo
Re:Two dimensional? (Score:4, Interesting)
I can already use brain signals to play games... (Score:3, Funny)
Uh oh.. the mi-go are here. (Score:3, Funny)
epilepsy + videogame (Score:2)
Don't video games all come with warnings about epilepsy?
It wouldn't work for BF1942 sessions (Score:2)
Epilepsy? (Score:2, Troll)
Nostalgia (read: man, I feel old) (Score:2, Funny)
Oh, btw - "Atari" was a home video game system. It's on Wikipedia. No, really - go look it up...
but. (Score:2)
On more serious note, I am more interested in the ability to send audio, video, data or any signals back to the brain. This would be more useful in stomping out handicaps.
Old News (Score:2)
I played pong with my mind (Score:2, Interesting)
Been There... Done that... (Score:2)
No, really. I have. In fact, this is not very uncommon, the only difference here is that the EEG was used to control an ATARI, instead of pre-written (for the EEG) PC games. I used to do Neuro-feedback therepy, which mostly consisted of sitting in a chair, and controlling various objects on screen. Most of them were simple things like getting a ball on a teeter-totter to move back and forth (which I could finally do). The theory is that once a person learns to subconciously change their own brainwave patter
Electro-Oculographic Mouse (Score:2)
The Opportunity Foundation of America [ofoa.net] is working with them to promote and subsidize the cost of the units to as little as a $200 donation. Such a system will fill a much needed niche for communication and education systems for people with
science immitates anime? :) (Score:2)
minor point of accuracy (Score:2, Informative)
Neurofeedback. (Score:2, Interesting)
Was he controlling the Atari 2600 (Score:2)
goddammit (Score:2)
Really old news (Score:2)
Um... (Score:1, Funny)
Re: (Score:2, Informative)
Re: (Score:2)
Has the prophecy come true?!
Re: (Score:3, Funny)
Thanks for your concern!
Re: (Score:3, Funny)
Rumble pack? (Score:2)